Ims replacement life

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by B6T

The way I looked at it was this... If I have to replace it every 75k, it's not a permanent solution, so I'm going to install an OEM bearing and at least be able to determine if the bearing is on its way out via debris in the filter, and my physically checking the bearing at an interval in-between.

From what I can tell, you can't detect a failing ceramic bearing in the same way because it is obviously not magnetic, and perhaps much worse for the engine and running surfaces if the balls start to deteriorate to a much finer ceramic particle, if not all out fracture immediately and take out the engine in a few revolutions.

Also worthy of note is that FACT that LN bearings do fail regularly, but every time someone posts online about it, Jake Raby and a few of his minions immediately attack the poster and blame him, the engine or the installer. Sometimes to the point that the poster removes the post completely. Over the years, I've witnessed this behavior on at least half a dozen occasions. Very shady stuff...

I'll never buy an LN bearing.

[Tcar]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Also worthy of note is that FACT that LN bearings do fail regularly, but every time someone posts online about it, Jake Raby and a few of his minions immediately attack the poster and blame him, the engine or the installer. Sometimes to the point that the poster removes the post completely. Over the years, I've witnessed this behavior on at least half a dozen occasions. Very shady stuff...

I'll never buy an LN bearing.

I would, and did.

In fact, most of the failures were from cars where the old bearing had failed and there was debris in the engine that damaged the new bearing.

Not to say there were not bad bearings.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Also worthy of note is that FACT that LN bearings do fail regularly, but every time someone posts online about it, Jake Raby and a few of his minions immediately attack the poster and blame him, the engine or the installer. Sometimes to the point that the poster removes the post completely. Over the years, I've witnessed this behavior on at least half a dozen occasions. Very shady stuff...

I'll never buy an LN bearing.

Anything can fail... But when something goes south the posted will seldom post the full story. Like the guy that had a dealer do the retrofit procedure, and they didn't even change the engine oil, which had been in service for a year prior! Or the technician that was using impact tools to tighten the center IMS stud nut...

Within the next 45 days or so the amount of LN IMS Retrofit components sold will break the 28,000 mark; with that many retrofits being done, all over the world, and mostly by those who are NOT Certified Installers that have been trained, things will happen.

For the record, there have been zero failures of the IMS Solution. This is a fact.

To date there have been ZERO failures of any IMSR products that were installed by a Certified Installer. This is a fact.

Also, we have performed over 500 IMSR procedures here under my roof, including the very first one. To date we have not had a single failure, of any of the technologies that LN sells. This is also a fact.

The installation DOES matter, and too many shops pay techs on flat rate, where they have to race the clock to make a decent pay check at the end of the week. This promotes negligence, hastiness, and typically does not allow for enough time to inspect and "qualify" an engine prior to the IMSR procedure. That takes 4-6 hours here, but most shops want the job done, and running in 10 hours. Its a recipe for disaster that no one has control over.

That said, you'll not find a single direct customer of ours that has a complaint, or whines on these forums. Our customers are like Smshirk, and they appreciate what we do for them. The whiners, and haters are always the guys that take issue with something, and have not spent a single dollar here. I have no idea why they do what they do, but I have to admit, it is entertaining.

[thom4782]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Also worthy of note is that FACT that LN bearings do fail regularly, but every time someone posts online about it, Jake Raby and a few of his minions immediately attack the poster and blame him, the engine or the installer. Sometimes to the point that the poster removes the post completely. Over the years, I've witnessed this behavior on at least half a dozen occasions. Very shady stuff...

I'll never buy an LN bearing.

Okay, now put facts behind your allegation that LN bearings 'regularly' fail.

Let's start with this. What do you mean by "regularly' - does it mean 50%, 25%, 10%, 1% or some other percentage of LN bearings have failed. My sense is that reasonable people would say 'regularly' means at least 10%.

But let's be conservative and say for argument sake that 'regularly' means 1%. Well that would mean at least 250 of the 25,000+ LN installations have failed. So who are these 250 people who allegedly experienced a LN bearing failures and why aren't their stories finding their way onto the forums. Could it be because LN bearing don't fail directly without some other intervening cause like left behind debris. Could it be you've vastly overstated your case?

Jake at least has stated the LN case in testable terms. So here's your opportunity to prove him wrong by putting some names and numbers on the table. Without testable facts, statements are just opinions

[Timco]

Originally Posted by thom4782

Okay, now put facts behind your allegation that LN bearings 'regularly' fail.

Let's start with this. What do you mean by "regularly' - does it mean 50%, 25%, 10%, 1% or some other percentage of LN bearings have failed. My sense is that reasonable people would say 'regularly' means at least 10%.

But let's be conservative and say for argument sake that 'regularly' means 1%. Well that would mean at least 250 of the 25,000+ LN installations have failed. So who are these 250 people who allegedly experienced a LN bearing failures and why aren't their stories finding their way onto the forums. Could it be because LN bearing don't fail directly without some other intervening cause like left behind debris. Could it be you've vastly overstated your case?

Jake at least has stated the LN case in testable terms. So here's your opportunity to prove him wrong by putting some names and numbers on the table. Without testable facts, statements are just opinions

He's an engineer. You wouldn't understand his reply.