Ethanol?

[IowaS]

My experience with the low gas mileage has been with my other two cars (Honda/Jeep) running mainly 89 octane ethanol blends. Ethanol is a little cheaper here that regular gas, I have always heard that the the incremental loss of fuel milage made up for the cost savings at the pump. They do have E85 (85% Ethanol) coming out, made to run in E85 modified vehicles.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by IowaS

My experience with the low gas mileage has been with my other two cars (Honda/Jeep) running mainly 89 octane ethanol blends. Ethanol is a little cheaper here that regular gas, I have always heard that the the incremental loss of fuel milage made up for the cost savings at the pump. They do have E85 (85% Ethanol) coming out, made to run in E85 modified vehicles.

Hi,

Ethanol has a lower Calorific Value than Gasoline, meaning that it contains less energy, about 10% less. Since there is less work available in a gallon of ethanol as compared to a gallon of gasoline, your car travels fewer miles on it, so your MPG drops...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[Brucelee]

Thanks to Congress for the new Ethanol mandate, the current shortage of Ethanol, the tariff on IMPORTED Ethanol, and the current spike in gas prices.

And Congress has the nerve to call the oil companies to Wash to testify.

They should just set up a mirror and talk to themselves.

Oh, did I mention, this is a political thread????????????



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[eslai]

The oil companies have known for YEARS that they were mandated to switch away from MTBE to Ethanol though. I have no sympathy for them, even though I'm no lover of politics.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by eslai

The oil companies have known for YEARS that they were mandated to switch away from MTBE to Ethanol though. I have no sympathy for them, even though I'm no lover of politics.

I did not ask for your sympathy for the oil companies. And, they don't grow corn, the farmers do. It is THEY who lobbied for the ethanol mandate and it is they who lobbied against lowering the tariffs on imported ethanol.

It is YOU AND I who pay for this rigged gig, not Congress.

[deliriousga]

Originally Posted by eslai

The oil companies have known for YEARS that they were mandated to switch away from MTBE to Ethanol though. I have no sympathy for them, even though I'm no lover of politics.

....BUT, the previously mandated MTBE additive was to be phased out later because of the environmental concerns, not right now. The production of Ethanol was being stepped up to create a greater supply for the changeover that was to come.

Unfortunately, the oil companies were being sued by environmental groups for using the Congressionally mandated MTBE. The oil companies asked for immunity from the suits since it was Congress who required them to use MTBE and Congress, in its' infinite wisdom, said they would not provide immunity. Without immunity from lawsuits caused by Congress' stupidity, the oil companies had to avoid the costs of the lawsuits so they stopped using MTBE now, before the supply of ethanol had been increased.

Low Supply + High Demand = Higher Price.

Simple economics, which only a hand full of Senators and Representatives actually understand (along with probably about 20% of Americans thanks to the great education we have....thanks again to Congress).

[Brucelee]

"Simple economics, which only a hand full of Senators and Representatives actually understand (along with probably about 20% of Americans thanks to the great education we have....thanks again to Congress)"

I think Congress understands Supply and Demand all to well. They would like you to think they are trying hard to help us out, but you and I know better.