Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-04-2015, 11:24 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 247
Garage
IMS Retrofit - Warranty/Break-in

My 03 2.7 is currently up on the lift getting a new clutch/IMS Pro/AOS/RMS.

While sitting here in withdrawal (no Box for the last two weeks due to the work being done and holiday vacations at the indy) I've been thinking about my first few weeks when I get the car back. The IMS Pro has a 30 day warranty, so I'm wondering if I should drive the car pretty aggressively in the first few weeks, just to ensure that everything sounds/feels right.

I trust my indy 100%, and obviously have confidence in the LN Engineering retrofit. But I can't help thinking I should make an effort to put some miles on the car during the first 30 days, that way in the unlikely event something is wrong I will know sooner, rather than in three months.

Any thoughts from those that have had IMS upgrades? Anyone routinely drive 'harder' when getting a car back from any kind of major repair/upgrade?

Or should I just stop worrying and learn to love the bomb? (Even though in this case, I've replaced the main bomb!)

-T

tomonomics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2015, 12:56 PM   #2
Beginner
 
Jamesp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,659
Garage
Just drive normally (which for me means several redlines per trip), and don't allow any mineshaft gaps.
__________________
2003 S manual
Jamesp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2015, 01:07 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Twomato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Hinsdale, IL
Posts: 76
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesp View Post
Just drive normally (which for me means several redlines per trip), and don't allow any mineshaft gaps.
+ 1. Get in and let 'r rip. ************* Be sure that your installer gives you the LN Eng IMS sticker that comes with your new bearing. The sticker has the IMS SN on it. I put mine on the driver's door next to the factory sticker.
__________________
2001 996 C4 Tip: Sold. Back in a new Mustang - oh well, made in "Merica

Last edited by Twomato; 01-04-2015 at 01:12 PM. Reason: content
Twomato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2015, 01:08 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Luv2Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 494
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomonomics View Post
My 03 2.7 is currently up on the lift getting a new clutch/IMS Pro/AOS/RMS.

While sitting here in withdrawal (no Box for the last two weeks due to the work being done and holiday vacations at the indy) I've been thinking about my first few weeks when I get the car back. The IMS Pro has a 30 day warranty, so I'm wondering if I should drive the car pretty aggressively in the first few weeks, just to ensure that everything sounds/feels right.

I trust my indy 100%, and obviously have confidence in the LN Engineering retrofit. But I can't help thinking I should make an effort to put some miles on the car during the first 30 days, that way in the unlikely event something is wrong I will know sooner, rather than in three months.

Any thoughts from those that have had IMS upgrades? Anyone routinely drive 'harder' when getting a car back from any kind of major repair/upgrade?

Or should I just stop worrying and learn to love the bomb? (Even though in this case, I've replaced the main bomb!)

-T
Keep in mind that warranty only covers the bearing. If it blows and grenades your motor your stuck with the repair/replacement of the motor. I just drove normal after mine was replaced three years ago which included AX, DE and back road "spirited" driving.
Luv2Box is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2015, 09:33 PM   #5
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
If there's an issue at all, it'll show up in 300 miles, no matter how hard the car is driven.

Indy's will be getting a new post- procedure checklist soon, and all Certified Installers will be required to carry this out. All Preferred Installers will have it added to their Code Of Conduct, as well.

The main thing is ensuring the shop carried out a pre- qualification procedure on the rest of the engine first. Its the other things that are unknown, if assumed "good", that will take out the retrofit bearing.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2015, 10:51 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 247
Garage
Thanks all. I'll return to my empty garage now and stare at the winter tires and jack, waiting for my cars return.
tomonomics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 08:12 AM   #7
Registered User
 
winter.k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: PNW
Posts: 220
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby View Post
The main thing is ensuring the shop carried out a pre- qualification procedure on the rest of the engine first. Its the other things that are unknown, if assumed "good", that will take out the retrofit bearing.
Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

Thanks.
winter.k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 11:15 AM   #8
Registered User
 
BoxsterPHD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Lancashire, UK
Posts: 33
Had mine done last October. 70 mile trip back home from the indy so I just let the engine warm up for about 10 miles of sedate driving then blasted down the motorway. That was 5k miles ago and several redlines later. No problems so far, just a huge sense of relief having the LN in place.
BoxsterPHD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 02:07 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sanford NC
Posts: 2,537
The important part, if I understand correctly, is the inspection of the filter and the dropped pan for any ferrous material. You want to make sure there is no debris that could take out the new bearing. If you find debris, then a rebuild with an emphasis on cleaning out the oil passages or a replacement of the motor with a clean one are about your only choices. Or you could drive it till it gernades.
mikefocke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 06:18 PM   #10
Registered Boxster abuser
 
healthservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: socal
Posts: 1,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by winter.k View Post
Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

Thanks.
http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...
healthservices is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 06:44 PM   #11
Need For Speed
 
KRAM36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Funville
Posts: 2,112
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices View Post
http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...
Did I read that right? 30 day warranty on a LN IMS?

Think I read Jake say a car with over 100k miles on it will not be covered under warranty, no matter who installs it. Pity, if the engine checks out to the specs recommended then it should be covered.


.
__________________
2003 Boxster S
| 987 Air Box | K&N Air Filter | 76mm Intake Pipe| 996 76mm TB | 997 Distribution T | Secondary Cat Delete Pipes | Borla Muffler | NHP 200 Cell Exhaust Headers |

Last edited by KRAM36; 03-29-2015 at 06:48 PM.
KRAM36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 09:28 PM   #12
Registered Boxster abuser
 
healthservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: socal
Posts: 1,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by winter.k View Post
Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

Thanks.


Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices View Post
http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...

Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAM36 View Post
Did I read that right? 30 day warranty on a LN IMS?


Think I read Jake say a car with over 100k miles on it will not be covered under warranty, no matter who installs it. Pity, if the engine checks out to the specs recommended then it should be covered.


.
Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow. And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great
healthservices is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 09:31 PM   #13
Need For Speed
 
KRAM36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Funville
Posts: 2,112
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices View Post
Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow. And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great
You would think they would give a lifetime warranty on it. Isn't that how they market it? You'll never need another IMSB using theirs?
__________________
2003 Boxster S
| 987 Air Box | K&N Air Filter | 76mm Intake Pipe| 996 76mm TB | 997 Distribution T | Secondary Cat Delete Pipes | Borla Muffler | NHP 200 Cell Exhaust Headers |
KRAM36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 10:15 PM   #14
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
Posts: 6,163
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices View Post
Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow Yes, it does matter..
And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great Says who? Data to back this up?


30 days is not standing behind your product. Period.
No amount of debate will change that fact.

It's too bad that everything doesn't last for life once it makes it past the 30 day mark.
I'm sorry, but the universe and physics just don't work that way. Do they sprinkle magical everlasting fairy dust on them, or what?

No, I don't drink the Kool-Aid.

Last edited by particlewave; 03-29-2015 at 10:43 PM.
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 07:33 AM   #15
Registered Boxster abuser
 
healthservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: socal
Posts: 1,014
After reading all the bad these Porsches are, Im surprised that they even last as long as they do.
healthservices is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 07:42 AM   #16
Need For Speed
 
KRAM36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Funville
Posts: 2,112
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices View Post
After reading all the bad these Porsches are, Im surprised that they even last as long as they do.
There are some weak spots, but overall, these car last a long time and hardly show any wear. I've said it before, 116k miles, no rust, interior looks perfect, it's like the car is in a time capsule.
__________________
2003 Boxster S
| 987 Air Box | K&N Air Filter | 76mm Intake Pipe| 996 76mm TB | 997 Distribution T | Secondary Cat Delete Pipes | Borla Muffler | NHP 200 Cell Exhaust Headers |
KRAM36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 09:40 PM   #17
Registered Boxster abuser
 
healthservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: socal
Posts: 1,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAM36 View Post
There are some weak spots, but overall, these car last a long time and hardly show any wear. I've said it before, 116k miles, no rust, interior looks perfect, it's like the car is in a time capsule.
Some weak points??? Lol. If you hope to get to anywhere close to my milage do not think that replacing some of these weak points once in a lifetime will be enough to get there.

Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk
healthservices is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 09:44 PM   #18
Need For Speed
 
KRAM36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Funville
Posts: 2,112
Garage
How many miles do you have on your car?
__________________
2003 Boxster S
| 987 Air Box | K&N Air Filter | 76mm Intake Pipe| 996 76mm TB | 997 Distribution T | Secondary Cat Delete Pipes | Borla Muffler | NHP 200 Cell Exhaust Headers |
KRAM36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 06:08 AM   #19
Registered Boxster abuser
 
healthservices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: socal
Posts: 1,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAM36 View Post
How many miles do you have on your car?
I'll have to take a look as i have not drove much this year. But its a little over a quarter million. I'll try to take a updated pic later today.

Here it is....



As you can plainly see, I don't drive it much as frail as these cars are.

Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk


Last edited by healthservices; 03-31-2015 at 09:33 AM.
healthservices is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page