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Old 01-04-2015, 12:24 PM   #1
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IMS Retrofit - Warranty/Break-in

My 03 2.7 is currently up on the lift getting a new clutch/IMS Pro/AOS/RMS.

While sitting here in withdrawal (no Box for the last two weeks due to the work being done and holiday vacations at the indy) I've been thinking about my first few weeks when I get the car back. The IMS Pro has a 30 day warranty, so I'm wondering if I should drive the car pretty aggressively in the first few weeks, just to ensure that everything sounds/feels right.

I trust my indy 100%, and obviously have confidence in the LN Engineering retrofit. But I can't help thinking I should make an effort to put some miles on the car during the first 30 days, that way in the unlikely event something is wrong I will know sooner, rather than in three months.

Any thoughts from those that have had IMS upgrades? Anyone routinely drive 'harder' when getting a car back from any kind of major repair/upgrade?

Or should I just stop worrying and learn to love the bomb? (Even though in this case, I've replaced the main bomb!)

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Just drive normally (which for me means several redlines per trip), and don't allow any mineshaft gaps.
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Just drive normally (which for me means several redlines per trip), and don't allow any mineshaft gaps.
+ 1. Get in and let 'r rip. ************* Be sure that your installer gives you the LN Eng IMS sticker that comes with your new bearing. The sticker has the IMS SN on it. I put mine on the driver's door next to the factory sticker.
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My 03 2.7 is currently up on the lift getting a new clutch/IMS Pro/AOS/RMS.

While sitting here in withdrawal (no Box for the last two weeks due to the work being done and holiday vacations at the indy) I've been thinking about my first few weeks when I get the car back. The IMS Pro has a 30 day warranty, so I'm wondering if I should drive the car pretty aggressively in the first few weeks, just to ensure that everything sounds/feels right.

I trust my indy 100%, and obviously have confidence in the LN Engineering retrofit. But I can't help thinking I should make an effort to put some miles on the car during the first 30 days, that way in the unlikely event something is wrong I will know sooner, rather than in three months.

Any thoughts from those that have had IMS upgrades? Anyone routinely drive 'harder' when getting a car back from any kind of major repair/upgrade?

Or should I just stop worrying and learn to love the bomb? (Even though in this case, I've replaced the main bomb!)

-T
Keep in mind that warranty only covers the bearing. If it blows and grenades your motor your stuck with the repair/replacement of the motor. I just drove normal after mine was replaced three years ago which included AX, DE and back road "spirited" driving.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:33 PM   #5
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If there's an issue at all, it'll show up in 300 miles, no matter how hard the car is driven.

Indy's will be getting a new post- procedure checklist soon, and all Certified Installers will be required to carry this out. All Preferred Installers will have it added to their Code Of Conduct, as well.

The main thing is ensuring the shop carried out a pre- qualification procedure on the rest of the engine first. Its the other things that are unknown, if assumed "good", that will take out the retrofit bearing.
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Thanks all. I'll return to my empty garage now and stare at the winter tires and jack, waiting for my cars return.
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The main thing is ensuring the shop carried out a pre- qualification procedure on the rest of the engine first. Its the other things that are unknown, if assumed "good", that will take out the retrofit bearing.
Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

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Had mine done last October. 70 mile trip back home from the indy so I just let the engine warm up for about 10 miles of sedate driving then blasted down the motorway. That was 5k miles ago and several redlines later. No problems so far, just a huge sense of relief having the LN in place.
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The important part, if I understand correctly, is the inspection of the filter and the dropped pan for any ferrous material. You want to make sure there is no debris that could take out the new bearing. If you find debris, then a rebuild with an emphasis on cleaning out the oil passages or a replacement of the motor with a clean one are about your only choices. Or you could drive it till it gernades.
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Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

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http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...
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http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...
Did I read that right? 30 day warranty on a LN IMS?

Think I read Jake say a car with over 100k miles on it will not be covered under warranty, no matter who installs it. Pity, if the engine checks out to the specs recommended then it should be covered.


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Jake, you mention a pre-qualification procedure. Is this information provided somewhere for those of us who plan to DIY the retrofit?

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http://lnengineering.com/files/IMSR-Instruction-Warranty.pdf

I do not believe there is much of a warranty if you do it yourself. Too many variables...

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Did I read that right? 30 day warranty on a LN IMS?


Think I read Jake say a car with over 100k miles on it will not be covered under warranty, no matter who installs it. Pity, if the engine checks out to the specs recommended then it should be covered.


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Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow. And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great
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Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow. And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great
You would think they would give a lifetime warranty on it. Isn't that how they market it? You'll never need another IMSB using theirs?
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Does it really matter if it was all done right you would not have any problems anyhow Yes, it does matter..
And if the motor fails, likelihood of it being from something else is pretty great Says who? Data to back this up?


30 days is not standing behind your product. Period.
No amount of debate will change that fact.

It's too bad that everything doesn't last for life once it makes it past the 30 day mark.
I'm sorry, but the universe and physics just don't work that way. Do they sprinkle magical everlasting fairy dust on them, or what?

No, I don't drink the Kool-Aid.

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After reading all the bad these Porsches are, Im surprised that they even last as long as they do.
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After reading all the bad these Porsches are, Im surprised that they even last as long as they do.
There are some weak spots, but overall, these car last a long time and hardly show any wear. I've said it before, 116k miles, no rust, interior looks perfect, it's like the car is in a time capsule.
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There are some weak spots, but overall, these car last a long time and hardly show any wear. I've said it before, 116k miles, no rust, interior looks perfect, it's like the car is in a time capsule.
Some weak points??? Lol. If you hope to get to anywhere close to my milage do not think that replacing some of these weak points once in a lifetime will be enough to get there.

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How many miles do you have on your car?
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How many miles do you have on your car?
I'll have to take a look as i have not drove much this year. But its a little over a quarter million. I'll try to take a updated pic later today.

Here it is....



As you can plainly see, I don't drive it much as frail as these cars are.

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