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Old 03-28-2006, 10:04 AM   #11
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"What I am saying is that a Gun is really no practical deterrent."

Sorry, Jim but you are DEAD wrong on this score. Ask anyone who has used one how this works. Moreover, ask any LEO about this. For many situations, the pulling of the gun is the end of the problem. In others, it is the ONLY way out! That depends on the asshat who is causing the issue.

As for Martial Arts vs. a gun. Forget it. It is not gonna happen in more than 1 out of 100 cases, even for guys like my namesake, who knew this all too well.

As for the other comments on the inappropriate use of guns, who can deny that with ANYTHING that has potential for harm. However, the plain fact is that when the law seeks to take guns away from the average citizen who fears for his safety, it allows the only guns to remain with the vermin in this culture who will ignore and if possible, harm the LEO and average citizens.

Hey, I went to an Ivy League college and graduate school, and I can spout all this reasonably sounding logic. We should be above violence, in a civilized society there is no plan for guns, etc etc.

Fact is, I also grew up in a ghetto. In the ghetto, the criminals laugh at the Ivy liberals. They call them "victims."

So again, I have no issue with folks who don't own or use a gun. I simply want them to allow me to protect myself my way and I will do the same for them. Legally of course!
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