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Old 08-26-2014, 05:28 PM   #1
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Clearly the car is in good running order and the entire shop estimate is "elective surgery" unrelated to the error code. Suggesting otherwise might amount to fraud though.
I respectfully disagree. Knowing there was a CEL and it has been reset, to state there are no known issues is false. While what the exact issue is may be up for debate, the fact remains, there is a known issue.

To the OP - i sure hope you are not going to take advantage of an unsuspecting buyer. Maybe if this were a BMW, then let the douche baggery commence..but this is a Porsche - we don't soak children with puddles
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Old 08-26-2014, 07:47 PM   #2
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I respectfully disagree. Knowing there was a CEL and it has been reset, to state there are no known issues is false. While what the exact issue is may be up for debate, the fact remains, there is a known issue.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

No one is suggesting that there are no known issues (your words not mine). 13 year old cars always have an issue or two. My car has had a dozen CELs over 9 years of ownership, 50k miles, 100+ track days, and all were minor and cost little or nothing to repair. I don't view the CEL as a sign of death or disease. Just a highly sensitive indicator that something needs attention.

If a car is being sold AS-IS the seller makes no warranty or representation that the car is flawless or AS-NEW. It is simply a used car that runs well. A wise buyer understands this and investigates to satisfy himself that the car will or will not meet his needs.

For me, a CEL including this one is a relatively minor maintenance issue that falls well within the scope of "good running order" and would not deter me as a buyer. It may simply be that a mouse chewed the sensor harness, grounding it temporarily, tripping the CEL. It happens. We don't know the answer at this point but this car certainly doesn't have $3500 worth of imminent repairs needed to meet the standard of "good running order". It runs just fine.

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Old 08-27-2014, 04:27 AM   #3
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Thanks everybody for your help. I put an ad in the internet yesterday and the prospective buyer came over in the evening and we shook hands on the deal. He is supposed to be paying for it today.

My approach was honesty and I showed him the latest diagnosis. I got close to my asking price. I believe in being honest and selling the car as is. I did not want to misrepresent or deceive the buyer.I do not want a brick thrown through my window at 3 in the morning.

I certainly agree that an indy trying to get me to go for a new ims, rms etc would not necessarily solve the problem. As mentioned above it could need chain guide replacement but I was not willing to put any more $$$ into an old car.

This has been a fun car over the past 3 years and I would not have missed the experience. However it is time to move on, winter is coming and we need an suv.
I thank you all for your help and advice over the past three years. You guys are great!
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:41 AM   #4
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Thanks everybody for your help. I put an ad in the internet yesterday and the prospective buyer came over in the evening and we shook hands on the deal. He is supposed to be paying for it today.

My approach was honesty and I showed him the latest diagnosis. I got close to my asking price. I believe in being honest and selling the car as is. I did not want to misrepresent or deceive the buyer.I do not want a brick thrown through my window at 3 in the morning.

I certainly agree that an indy trying to get me to go for a new ims, rms etc would not necessarily solve the problem. As mentioned above it could need chain guide replacement but I was not willing to put any more $$$ into an old car.

This has been a fun car over the past 3 years and I would not have missed the experience. However it is time to move on, winter is coming and we need an suv.
I thank you all for your help and advice over the past three years. You guys are great!
Guy.
In the end, the buyer and the seller have to be happy, glad it worked out. Good luck with the SUV and winter (I sure don't miss winter, I am originally from Wisconsin) Take care
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:35 AM   #5
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Be sure to send the buyer this way (to the forum). In my short time here the community has been invaluable.
Good for you being clear and honest about the car. /respect
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