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			I don't have my new to me used 2002 S yet but I'm studying a lot of forums to get educated. It looks like the oil drain plug is an internal 8mm allen wrench. I guess I'm old school and like a drain plug with an external hex are these available as replacements ? Or am I over thinking this ?
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-21-2013, 04:22 AM
			
			
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			12-21-2013, 05:51 AM
			
			
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			First time I ever changed my oil I thought I had really hit the big time because of the Allen wrench set up...lol.  Man I'm a nerd right?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-21-2013, 06:17 AM
			
			
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			I believe that the less stuff that hangs out below the car the better. Driving in winter and occasionally being a snowplough with windrows can be problematic because I have the IMS Guardian installed. Not only is the pigtail/nut exposed to the elements but the wiring that goes to the front of the car is exposed to ice and snow. So the original allen screw drain plug is a good idea as it is recessed and has less chance of being dragged on a manhole cover etc.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-21-2013, 06:31 AM
			
			
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				First time I ever changed my oil I thought I had really hit the big time because of the Allen wrench set up...lol.  Man I'm a nerd right? 
			
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I insist on drilling all my drain plugs for safety wire, and the shoulder of the plug is quite a narrow space to drill from the outside of the shoulder to the center of the allen head socket area.
 
I earned my right to be a nerd though, I'm a hell'uv an engineer...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-21-2013, 06:44 AM
			
			
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				First time I ever changed my oil I thought I had really hit the big time because of the Allen wrench set up...lol.  Man I'm a nerd right? 
			
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I will go one further trimer. I thought I was nerdy when.....I bought a torque wrench. 
Sorry to hijack this thread. This could spawn a whole new thread such as I thought I was nerdy when.....  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-21-2013, 04:41 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  recycledsixtie
					 
				 
				I will go one further trimer. I thought I was nerdy when.....I bought a torque wrench. 
Sorry to hijack this thread. This could spawn a whole new thread such as I thought I was nerdy when.....   
			
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OMG....I bought the giant one from Lowes for $60 or $70....whatever it was.  It's HUGE.  I use it for my tires mostly.  My neighbor came over and was completely envious.  Awesome 12 year old guy moment. Torque wrench envy.  The best.  (....But he as a way better floor jack than I do....so we're sort of even.)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-22-2013, 07:32 AM
			
			
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			I've used both Dimple and LN Engineering magnetic drain plugs, they both work well as long as you TORQUE them to the proper setting.  
I over torqued the LN Eng. plug and snapped off the shoulder of the plug BUT I didn't harm the drain pan, so maybe its a good weak link. Plug replacement is cheaper than pan replacement. 
The Dimple plug is a more robust plug with a hex head and I'd guess i could damage the oil pan if I wasn't paying attention.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-22-2013, 07:51 AM
			
			
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				I've used both Dimple and LN Engineering magnetic drain plugs, they both work well as long as you TORQUE them to the proper setting.  
I over torqued the LN Eng. plug and snapped off the shoulder of the plug BUT I didn't harm the drain pan, so maybe its a good weak link. Plug replacement is cheaper than pan replacement. 
The Dimple plug is a more robust plug with a hex head and I'd guess i could damage the oil pan if I wasn't paying attention. 
			
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This " dimple " plug is that a brand/manufacturer ? Where did you purchase ? Is it a magnetic plug ? Thanks
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-22-2013, 09:32 AM
			
			
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				I over torqued the LN Eng. plug and snapped off the shoulder of the plug BUT I didn't harm the drain pan, so maybe its a good weak link. Plug replacement is cheaper than pan replacement. 
			
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Had that same experience, because I forgot from one year to the next that the magnetic plug requires 19 ft-lbs, not 37 like the original. Fortunately, after about 15 minutes of frantic searching, I found the original one and put it back in until I get another magnetic.
 
I totally agree that it is better for the plug to break rather than damage the drain hole. My first thought when I felt the torque wrench slip was that I had stripped the hole, and that wasn't a nice feeling. My relief at seeing the fuct up plug was indescribable.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-22-2013, 05:32 PM
			
			
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			12-23-2013, 04:32 PM
			
			
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