11-12-2013, 12:41 PM
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Speak for North America and Europe (other than Italy and the UK). The market only started about ten years ago in Asia and Middle-East. Community of sport, luxury and supercars is growing by 'millions' every years here in China alone, and not likely to stop anytime soon. All imports. Not a single week goes by without seeing a trailler full of Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche 911, AMGs, A.M., you name it they are everywhere.
Petrol imported from Russia - Cheap Cheap!!!
Go Go Green  pffffff
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11-12-2013, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine8Six
Speak for North America and Europe (other than Italy and the UK). The market only started about ten years ago in Asia and Middle-East. Community of sport, luxury and supercars is growing by 'millions' every years here in China alone, and not likely to stop anytime soon. All imports. Not a single week goes by without seeing a trailler full of Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche 911, AMGs, A.M., you name it they are everywhere.
Petrol imported from Russia - Cheap Cheap!!!
Go Go Green  pffffff
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China buys super cars and SUVs. They don't buy sports cars. They buy a tonne of Cayenne in China, barely any Boxsters and Caymans.
Personally, I think the article is mostly right, at least in sentiment. Sports cars are in long term decline. Core western markets are losing interest while emerging markets want luxury cars, SUVs and super cars. Not sports cars.
And when someone buys a Cayenne in China, it's not because the understand the tradition and history of Porsche sports cars.
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11-12-2013, 01:13 PM
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Like I said, the market has just started and getting worst on the positive side for manufacturers of sport cars as well. Yes the Cayenne and Panmera are in every gardens and roads here. Still, the number of Pcars, Maseratti, AMGs, etc etc is growing by months. I share those roads believe me I can see it. Its that bad.
Ridiculous to a point where e.g. some use their 458 as DD (rush hour and all). The Supercars trend just started just a few years ago. Now to the sport cars....
Let me take a picture of the refurbed Pcar service center & dealer combined and their inventory/land size next time - that's worth seeing thinking of it. Makes anyone feel very small
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11-12-2013, 03:12 PM
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Now to the sport cars....
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In hope you're right, but I'm confident you're dead wrong.
I think the chances of the Chinese buying any proper sports cars are zero. They'll buy super cars and luxury coupes.
But something like a light-weight, manual, naturally-aspirated, rear-wheel drive sports car with decent control weights and feedback (or at least something with most of those things)? Not a chance, in my view.
Let me know when the Chinese start buying 100,000 GT86s a year. I won't hold my breath!
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11-12-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pothole
And when someone buys a Cayenne in China, it's not because the understand the tradition and history of Porsche sports cars.
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No, correct. It is a stereotype, a brand, and a proof of weath.
But that is changing also. You can see it by looking at the number of performance shops and Indy opening in every corners of the cities and provinces.
Influenced a lot by JP and the HK rich & famous, of course
PS: Showing a vintage car to a local has the same effect as if you would show them an OLD Naked Grand Mother. Picture that
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