09-24-2013, 06:16 PM
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Porsche Factory Rebuilt Engines On-Sale $14K
Thought this was interesting - factory rebuilt engines on sale. Time to clear out all of those rebuilt IMS bearing failures?
Porsche Engine Sale: Porsche Parts & Porsche Accessories - Wholesale Porsche Parts & Tequipment
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09-24-2013, 06:48 PM
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Thanks for posting this.
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09-24-2013, 07:24 PM
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Do these motors come with everything pictured?? Alternator, starter, all the induction??
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09-24-2013, 07:25 PM
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That's about the price I paid for me whole car lol.
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09-25-2013, 05:45 AM
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"No Core Charge"! that is an odd statement, I have never known Porsche to give anything away. By the way for you all, Porsche can charge up to $20,000. for the core.
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09-25-2013, 06:45 AM
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cool...so 996 GT3's will be going for $31K some day...less than most payed for their just out of warranty Boxsters.
I'll take one 996 GT3 in white please.
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09-25-2013, 07:01 AM
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Alright, who's gong to be the first to step up and grab one of those GT3 eingines for their 986?
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09-25-2013, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kashmir
"No Core Charge"! that is an odd statement, I have never known Porsche to give anything away. By the way for you all, Porsche can charge up to $20,000. for the core.
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A good clue that M96 remanufactured engines won't be available much longer
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09-25-2013, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Taipanic
Alright, who's gong to be the first to step up and grab one of those GT3 eingines for their 986?
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I forget which magazine it was, but they profiled this engine swap in one of their issues. A black 986S if memory serves.The shop said they would not do this again given the extensive costs and modificantions needed for the retrofit to work. Cheaper to just buy the 996 GT3 outright. And apparently the car needed an extensive suspension overhaul to get it feeling well balanced again.
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09-25-2013, 09:48 AM
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I heard the same thing about a guy who put a 3.8 x51 into a cayman - too much squat when you get on the gas or somesuch.
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09-25-2013, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BYprodriver
A good clue that M96 remanufactured engines won't be available much longer
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Yes Porsche is running out of engines , they did not anticipate so many failures, they were all used in warranty cars. The 2.5s are gone, early IMS shafts are gone because there are two styles of timing chains used in the engine, you can't get the old style anymore.
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09-26-2013, 02:27 PM
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Any of you guys want to put a group buy together?  All jokes aside. This is a great oppurtunity for a 911 engine upgrade. What is the install cost roughly?
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09-27-2013, 08:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rp17
Any of you guys want to put a group buy together?  All jokes aside. This is a great oppurtunity for a 911 engine upgrade. What is the install cost roughly?
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This is absolutely a clue that factory reman engines will not be available much longer. That said, paying $14k for a factory reman engine to stuff into a Boxster is something I wouldn't even consider. These motors are in no way better than what came in the car in the first place, and we all know how well many of those held up.
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09-27-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kashmir
Yes Porsche is running out of engines , they did not anticipate so many failures, they were all used in warranty cars. The 2.5s are gone, early IMS shafts are gone because there are two styles of timing chains used in the engine, you can't get the old style anymore.
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Auto Manufacturers have to supply replacement parts for 7 years minimum & all 986s are past that plus the IMSB lawsuit has been settled.
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09-27-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloudsurfer
That said, paying $14k for a factory reman engine to stuff into a Boxster is something I wouldn't even consider. These motors are in no way better than what came in the car in the first place, and we all know how well many of those held up.
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I agree. Such princely sums (relative to the cost of a used 996/986) seems better spent buying a Raby Engine.
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09-27-2013, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rp17
Any of you guys want to put a group buy together?  All jokes aside. This is a great oppurtunity for a 911 engine upgrade. What is the install cost roughly?
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I was thinking the same thing, if it wasn't for the "if it ain't broke" ideal, I would be seriously eyeballing this deal.
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09-27-2013, 02:31 PM
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Even if the engine is kaput, I think a brand new reman engine is a bottom of the list option.
The output of a stock Carrera m96/97 engine is not a game-changer on this platform over a 3.4, certainly not for that price. Granted a two year warranty is nice, but the first two years are not really when you're going to have an issue. For that price they should give you 6, well maybe at least 4. I think the motor in my pricey blender has a better warranty... and it didn't cost $31K like that TT.
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Last edited by Perfectlap; 09-27-2013 at 02:34 PM.
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09-27-2013, 02:59 PM
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I am sure the M96 engines have been sitting around for years. The IMSB seals after sitting in break in oil for the last decade have turned hard and shrunk back and ripe for a failure.
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09-27-2013, 03:07 PM
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I am sure the M96 engines have been sitting around for years. The IMSB seals after sitting in break in oil for the last decade have turned hard and shrunk back and ripe for a failure.
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I thought they kept in them in big industrial sized jars.
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09-27-2013, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
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I thought they kept in them in big industrial sized jars. 
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Yes filled with dirty cut in oil.
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