How to get Porsche replace my 2005 987 Porsche engine IMS bearing failure at 42023 mi

[Jager]

Pull the IMS bearing and send it to the CEO of Porsche with a letter giving him the details of the vehicle, your situation, and ask him for his recommendation. Keep the letter polite and professional.

Thanks for all the ideas.

I have some good gear (Canon 7D) to do a nice video of this perfect shape 42k miles 987.
Then drive down to Atlanta and knock some doors directly and leave them one letter, the IMS bearing and a USB stick with the video ready to post on Youtube and forums.

If you have a good scenario of video that I should do except for the close up of destroyed IMS bearing please share ;-) I need some inspiration.

Thanks!

Greg

[Paul]

Being a 2005 your car may have a non removable IMS bearing. Your wallet and health will both be better off, if you sell it and walk away now.

[DenverSteve]

Sorry for your loss. If you want any possibility of help at all, be nice. You have a car that needs an engine. You're not the first and they've been threatened before. What I'm most surprised about is that of the too many Porsche owner's that have experienced IMS failures that they haven't gotten together and hired an attorney for a class-action suit. The only possibility of change comes from strength in numbers. There are likely thousands of attorney's who own Porsches and don't want to be the next high-and-dry owner with a bad engine. Numbers have strength - You Tube and other threats - not so much. Fix your car and drive it for another 100,000 miles.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Boxeer

Thanks for all the ideas.

I have some good gear (Canon 7D) to do a nice video of this perfect shape 42k miles 987.
Then drive down to Atlanta and knock some doors directly and leave them one letter, the IMS bearing and a USB stick with the video ready to post on Youtube and forums.

If you have a good scenario of video that I should do except for the close up of destroyed IMS bearing please share ;-) I need some inspiration.

Thanks!

Greg

Aww man I could have field day with this...


Get your friends and put on a mock lottery to win a 2005 Porsche boxster. Show one of them drawing the winning ticket. He does a fist in the air, screaming, run around the bar. Show his girlfriend crying tears of joy. Show his fat best friend somersaulting down the bar counter.
Then show the whole bar run out to see the lucky winner get the keys to the car and a Porsche jacket, like the green jacket when you win the Masters. He gets in the car turns the ignition and kaboom!
The grim reaper shows up with the letters IMS on his chest. And the girlfriend lets out a horror movie scream. Lots of smoke coming from the cockpit. Grim reaper "ha ha ha your time has come! The soul of this PORSCHE engine has been claimed!" The driver shakes his head "noooo it cant be! Nooooo it only has 42k miles!! Grimm reaper laughs haha ha no porsche engine is safe! Ha ha ha....and asks for the keys. Everyone goes back in the bar calling him a loser.


I also have an idea for a Let's Make a Deal plot where you pick door #3 after passing up a suitcase full of gold bars or something ...

IMS bearing is removable:

Chewed up bearing support:




That should be Porsche logo:




Intact inside/outside vehicle:




Greg

[madmods]

Originally Posted by Jager

Pull the IMS bearing and send it to the CEO of Porsche with a letter giving him the details of the vehicle, your situation, and ask him for his recommendation. Keep the letter polite and professional.

Yep, A+ on this mate

(remember, polite and professional)

[Jager]

Originally Posted by Jager

Pull the IMS bearing and send it to the CEO of Porsche with a letter giving him the details of the vehicle, your situation, and ask him for his recommendation. Keep the letter polite and professional.

Dear Mr. Müller,
I recently purchased a 2005 Boxster with 42,000 miles for $5000 but unfortunately the engine was toast (you know, the IMS bearing thing). I don’t have the $27,000 + labor to replace the motor, what do you recommend I do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Signed,
Help Me

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Although the forum has been somewhat scammed by the OP, he has a point about a low mileage car getting fixed at Porsche's expense. His question is valid weather or not he is the original owner or he purchased it already toasted. I think Porsche needs to stand behind ALL of their cars that have IMS failure provided the car is under 100K miles and they can satisfy themselves the car has not been abused.

Example:Triumph motorcycle has a problem with their Rocket III models. They have been standing behind many of the repairs and subsequent upgrades and rebuilds of the model even for bikes years out of warranty no matter if you are first or second owner. I purchased mine new in 2007 and purchased a 6 year extended warranty just in case. So far mine is OK. The problem is hit or miss just like the IMS.

You would think the new price of a Porsche should easily pay for a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. If a cheap $15,000 Hyundai can come with it, why can't a $50,000 to $100,000 plus Porsche ????

[landrovered]

Good advice Ghost

[madmods]

The question you should all be asking yourself is, why NOBODY have been able to legally, and scientifically of course, prove that the IMS bearing is indeed a manufacturing issue, and not 'something' else. Only until then, Porsche is going to admit it. No proof = they are just going to continue to blame how the car is driven, or not!, change oil(type) intervals, whatever they want. Etc

I find it quite nice of them to allow a few engine swaps at no cost, and some recalls, new engine put in etc, with no legal obligations

[Paul]

Originally Posted by madmods

I find it quite nice of them to allow a few engine swaps at no cost, and some recalls, new engine put in etc, with no legal obligations

I've said it before, if Porsche has fixed this issue they have nothing to lose with a 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty on the motor of new cars and factory replacement motors. Most of us would actually pay extra for such a warranty.

I will not buy another new Porsche until they do.

[pothole]

Such a shame this happens / was allowed to happen. These are otherwise such utterly lovely, wonderful cars.

:-(

[l3m]

Deleted post.

[ekam]

I went through this 2.5 years ago with my 2004, I dealt with Porsche and they agreed to provide discount on the motor but I had to get it installed at the dealer. I don't have much advice but say you have to stay calm and be patient. Try not to burn any bridges unless you have to.

[Steve Tinker]

I'm willing to bet NSK (or any other supplier Porsche may have used) have no details of the IMS bearing installation.
Porsche design engineers would have finalised the complete engine design and then sent out pricing enquiry's to several bearing manufacturers requesting supply and delivery costs for so many thousand of type xxxx bearings.
NSK, FAG, Timken, et al, are not players in "in house" designs (unless specifically asked), their products are catalogued & sold around the world to conform to international numbering identification specifications - its up to the design engineers at Porsche to specify the size and type of bearing to be used for the application.
To quote landrovered, The supplier is not at fault.......as long as he supplies what Porsche asked for.

[tommy986]

Originally Posted by Boxeer

The title says it all!

Any advice will be very appreciated.

Thanks

Greg

How long have you had this car?

Is this the same car you were thinking about buying back in December... with a blown engine?

[manolo]

Originally Posted by tommy986

How long have you had this car?

Is this the same car you were thinking about buying back in December... with a blown engine?

Is this guy seriously complaining about a car he bought with an already grenaded engine? Tha same one JFP and others said wasn't worth the 13k asking price?

When you write PCNA, make sure the letter starts like this:

Dear PCNA,

I bought a car with a blown up engine. I would like you to fix it for me. I knew it was a dead roller when I paid too much for it ($13k), but I would like you to fix it for free anyway. If you do not, I will start a negative Facebook page, make goofy videos and park the car in front of the dealership because it has a blown engine...that I already knew about...before I bought it.

[landrovered]

Well if that don't beat all...

[Ghostrider 310]

So, the PO sold it as a car with a compromised engine and told the truth up front? If the engine was blown how did he get any drive time? Are you guys saying he bought it as a roller and then thought he could Ralph Nader himself an engine? If so that is a classic for the ages.