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Old 08-11-2011, 09:13 PM   #1
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They can build it however you want, from mild to wild. You may want to describe the exact engine specs you're looking for in order to get a better idea on price. They way your question is phrased I think the answer could range from $15K to $25K.
Are you looking for the exact same performance as stock, but with greater reliability? What exactly would you provide them to work with?
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:51 PM   #2
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For me personally I was thinking of a 3.6l that they have posted on the site. To replace my 2.7l (MY2001) I currently have. I am looking for something that has reliability and gets at least 300 bhp that is going to require the least amount of additional mods once I have made the purchase. Addition mods as in brakes/suspension, etc.... I would like to keep as much of the things I currently have while putting in 3.6l that can put out at least 300 hp to the rear wheels. Can someone tell me what $16k is going to cover in that sort of set up?
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Old 08-12-2011, 05:39 AM   #3
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For me personally I was thinking of a 3.6l that they have posted on the site. To replace my 2.7l (MY2001) I currently have. I am looking for something that has reliability and gets at least 300 bhp that is going to require the least amount of additional mods once I have made the purchase. Addition mods as in brakes/suspension, etc.... I would like to keep as much of the things I currently have while putting in 3.6l that can put out at least 300 hp to the rear wheels. Can someone tell me what $16k is going to cover in that sort of set up?

This seems like a very silly approach to me. You want to spend a bunch of money to make the car go fast (straight ahead), but want to skimp and save on the items that make the car stop (brakes) and help lay the power down and give a great driving experience and change directions (suspension).

You may want to rethink your process. Then again, if your just looking for some bragging rights and HP's.....proceed.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:17 AM   #4
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:23 AM   #5
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Instead of asking here and getting a bunch of opinions on the merits of your questions, you can just call them and get an answer in 2 minutes.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:02 AM   #6
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I've shared this page of Jake's site before, but I'll post it again here as I feel it's relevant.

http://www.flat6innovations.com/engines/performance-parts-a-services/5-performance-engine-modifications

Have a look through there and see some of the other options you may have overlooked.

You have a 2.7 that's putting out somewhere around 220hp crank (on paper), right? Here, aside from doing intake, headers, exhaust, and tune to start, Jake can take your block (if it is worthy ), remove the lokasil cylinder liners and have nickasil ones installed (Stage 2 on the web page). The advantage to this is that you can actually bump your 2.7 up to a 2.9 if you want with the installation of the nickies, and the job comes with new pistons, rings, and pins, and you can get stronger connecting rods for a small bit more. He can also do light machining on the heads to improve their performance with the new displacement. Even if you left it at a 2.7 it would bring a slight performance increase just having the nickies in there. I'm sure that if you haven't done the IMS retrofit or upgrade yet that it can be done during this process, as well.

And this isn't even getting into the next stage of turbocharging, if you so choose. If they can pull 300hp from a 2.5 with just what's on that page, at what appears to be maaaybe approaching the same amount as the cheapest price speculated in an earlier post, I'd say consider some of these options. I have to imagine if you're starting out near 220 stock that you'd have to be approaching a few tens of hp shy of 300 crank with a tuned 2.9 with modified intake, headers, exhaust, and tuning by Jake (normally aspirated still). I know that's not the 300 wheel you're looking for, but a good deal of that (and a nice heaping full of torque) will be hitting the ground better than before, and you'll still have a more reliable engine the way it should have been built.

Now, I've seen no hard numbers for it, it's just my speculations. But it's a question you can ask Jake, and I doubt he's going to have a problem with you asking him questions about something you're considering having done through his shop. I would imagine he expects more questions than he gets. Anyways, I just wanted to put that option out there in case you hadn't come across it yourself when looking around his site, because to me it means no need for a whole new engine, because you'd pretty much be getting one out of your original block when Jake's done with it, and you'll still be getting a serious bump in performance without needing to really get rid of your original engine.

As far as the other bits go, if you're looking to add nearly 100hp to the equation, you're going to need to stop better, as you're undoubtedly going to put that power to the test. If it were me, I'd want to be able to stop just as well as I go. You really might be fine just getting better pads, you don't necessarily have to go and get big cross drilled brakes, but that's not really the discussion we're having so I won't go down that path here.

Hope the link above is helpful in some way, and do try to get in touch with Jake, I'm sure he'll be quite willing to answer your questions.

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Old 08-12-2011, 08:03 AM   #7
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This seems like a very silly approach to me. You want to spend a bunch of money to make the car go fast (straight ahead), but want to skimp and save on the items that make the car stop (brakes) and help lay the power down and give a great driving experience and change directions (suspension).

You may want to rethink your process. Then again, if your just looking for some bragging rights and HP's.....proceed.
For most cars out there I absolutely agree with this mentality. That said, I think the Boxster stops and handles SO well right from the factory that bumping the HP by 50-100 would only put the power in the same league as the handling and braking.
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For most cars out there I absolutely agree with this mentality. That said, I think the Boxster stops and handles SO well right from the factory that bumping the HP by 50-100 would only put the power in the same league as the handling and braking.
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Guys,
I am sorry that I haven't been around here much.. The IMS Guardian development has taken a lot out of me lately.. Luckily that development is coming to a close and production is underway!

At any rate my program has so many facets that the only people who understand it are the people who have created it, or those who have actually purchased my reconstructed engine with all the tricks.

I'll visit this thread on Monday and try to help you understand what we do, what a basic engine consists of and how far we can go and at which basic budget levels.

In the mean time, have a great weekend!
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I am sorry that I haven't been around here much.. The IMS Guardian development has taken a lot out of me lately.. Luckily that development is coming to a close and production is underway!

At any rate my program has so many facets that the only people who understand it are the people who have created it, or those who have actually purchased my reconstructed engine with all the tricks.

I'll visit this thread on Monday and try to help you understand what we do, what a basic engine consists of and how far we can go and at which basic budget levels.

In the mean time, have a great weekend!

That would be wonderful Jake thank you for taking the little time you have to respond. Enjoy your weekend.
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