IMS Guardian Pre-order

[mikefocke]

Does the detection device connect in any way with the DME?

Can it be removed/disconnected if desired in a trivial way?

Can it be used or should it be used with the LN IMSR?

What are the labor hours to install for a first time installer who is familiar with Boxsters?

Does it measure/compare camshaft deviations?

[insite]

i'd be interested in a list of the ten failure modes it looks for.


for what it's worth, i've been up to jake's shop & it really is a development center. it's a multi-building complex with an engine build center, a tear-down center, a full machine shop, and a research center. the research center has a chassis dyno and two engine dynos, one of which is M96 specific. i saw a host of diagnosis equipment, design & research tools, even a brand new 3.8L DFI motor in tear-down.

regardless of whether some think jake goes a bit overboard with doom & gloom, he really is doing the leg work he claims to do. regardless of whether any of us decides to purchase the IMS guardian, i don't personally believe that it's snake oil. i'd be interested in stats once we have some data (statistical type 1 & type 2 errors, alpha) to see how effective it really is, but i do believe it will at least to some extent perform what it claims to perform.

the fact that they, along with LN, developed a DIY IMS kit along with an in-car replacement method is a pretty big deal for the M96 community. the guardian may not be for everyone & the price point may be a bit off, but CERTAINLY there is demand for something of this nature. if it works, it will give a lot of people the piece of mind they need to further enjoy their cars.

if you want to bash him for the hard sell, go right ahead, but i don't think it's right to beat him up over developing a product that the market has asked for, ESPECIALLY if this thing winds up saving some motors......

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

Does the detection device connect in any way with the DME?

No, not at all. 100% stand alone. Two wires connect to the vehicle's wiring, thats it. One of them is a "piggy back" connection from pin#3 of ad adjacent Porsche rocker switch.

Can it be removed/disconnected if desired in a trivial way?

Yep, in less time than it took to install. Just reinsert the switch block off that was removed when the IMSG was installed and you can't ever tell it was there.

Can it be used or should it be used with the LN IMSR?

Yes it can be. one of my test cars has an IMSR and employs the IMSG.

What are the labor hours to install for a first time installer who is familiar with Boxsters?

One of my friends doesn't even own a Porsche, he installed the system in one of my test cars in 90 minutes with no assistance from me at all, only using my written instructions. The goal of that exercise was to test the instructions. He is about as mechanical as a cardboard box.

Does it measure/compare camshaft deviations?

Can't answer that question.

for what it's worth, i've been up to jake's shop & it really is a development center. it's a multi-building complex with an engine build center, a tear-down center, a full machine shop, and a research center. the research center has a chassis dyno and two engine dynos, one of which is M96 specific. i saw a host of diagnosis equipment, design & research tools, even a brand new 3.8L DFI motor in tear-down.

regardless of whether some think jake goes a bit overboard with doom & gloom, he really is doing the leg work he claims to do. regardless of whether any of us decides to purchase the IMS guardian, i don't personally believe that it's snake oil. i'd be interested in stats once we have some data (statistical type 1 & type 2 errors, alpha) to see how effective it really is, but i do believe it will at least to some extent perform what it claims to perform.

Now for the funny part. When you came to visit an IMSG system was sitting on top of my black tool box right by the chassis dyno. We were two feet from it talking all about cars and engines and you never noticed it.. :-) Thank you for the compliments, glad you were impressed with our facility and what we have in work. The 9A1 engine is now finished that you saw and the results were impressive.. I'd dare say that no one else in this country has carried that work out to date, it was very challenging to say the least!

Ok fellas, my time to sit behind the computer is over.. For the last two weeks I haven't been able to get out of the Office due to paperwork related to the IMSG. Just today our final test car arrived and I need to get into the lab and get things set up to blow the engine up on purpose while under the watchful eye of the IMSG and on video with all our data logging gear in place. I need to do this test next week, before we close down the entire week of the 4th for our summer shut down.

I will pop in when I have a chance, but no more page long stories from me until after we return on July 11th.

If you want to buy the IMSG and believe in it, thats great and we'd love to sell it to you.
When we return from vacation it should be time to let the cat out of the bag. I appreciate your support and even the negative statements, reality is thats just life.