Help please - boxster fire...

[delubozparts]

Sam,

My apologies to hear your unfortunate issues, please have a Certified Mechanic to double check the caused of fire. (P/S fluids spilled out from mid section of P/S line or end of P/S line connections ?)

We been selling these Headers & Exhaust systems for Boxster since 2004 never had any issues as long the P/S Line are cleared away from Headers, just make sure the Installation were done properly.

We will stand behind our products, just keep us post with results.

Thank you for everyones support.

Che

[sparker]

Hi Che,

I am certainly not blaming your product, it would have been more my over sight in not ensuring the P/S line was secure and far enough away from the headers. It may well be worth making this print bold and large in your instructions for future customers though (as long as they read the instructions!!!)

Thanks guys,
Sam

[sparker]

Images of damage. Certainly was a power steering line that touched the headers, wasnt touching when I installed them, so must have moved after installing (two weeks ago). Has burnt some undertray, a little bit of wiring and ofcourse, the power steering line.











Insite - if you still had that spare power steering line, I would be very grateful! As for the loom, I think I'll be ok to patch this, but if you have a bit spare - that would be great too. Let me know what I owe you.

Sam

[Dragonwind]

Sorry to hear about your fire! This happened to me too and I have since just gone back to stock other than a 'S' muffler. When the indy shop I frequented fixed it they were unable to get just a hose and had to replace the entire unit. Porsche had made a few updates from my version so I was fine with having new PS pump and lines.

Chris

[sparker]

I'm hoping to find a good condition used hose as a complete new setup is not in the budget right now. Otherwise I'll have a custom hose made.

If anyone can assist, let me know! I'll be covering the new hose in fire proof sleeve, wrapping the headers with exhaust wrap and strongly securing all lines away from the exhaust

Sam

[laphan]

Originally Posted by sparker

I'm hoping to find a good condition used hose as a complete new setup is not in the budget right now. Otherwise I'll have a custom hose made.

If anyone can assist, let me know! I'll be covering the new hose in fire proof sleeve, wrapping the headers with exhaust wrap and strongly securing all lines away from the exhaust

Sam

I strongly suggest you to add exhaust wrap to you headers and downpipe. I'm working with automotive OEMs on under hood heat management and not surprised on seeing stuffs melting. The cheapest way to solve you issue is by putting a zero clearance exhaust wrap. They come in a roll and you just have to wrap them (shiny type). The non shiny type will reduce you exhaust skin temperature that other components are exposed to but not radiation coefficient (still reduces number of heat transfer through radiation). Most of the time, these stuffs are caused by radiation (not any conduction/convection). Those exhaust header skin temperature can easily goes up to 700C when driven hard. It is not necessary to wrap other components around you exhaust if you already wrap the exhaust pipe enough. If you are familiar with Radtherm software, you can calculate on how much wrapping you need (minimum amount) to make it work. Their philosophy is "cheap is good".

The best way to solve the issue is to custom made the exhaust shield with 3 layer material (normally aluminum - fiber glass - aluminum sandwich). But making and mounting that shield is not easy/cheap.

[JAAY]

Same thing happened to me with a set of headers I had a few years back. Cost me 900 from the dealer to fix. Nothing else was harmed in my case. Good luck.

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by sparker

Hi Che,

I am certainly not blaming your product, it would have been more my over sight in not ensuring the P/S line was secure and far enough away from the headers. It may well be worth making this print bold and large in your instructions for future customers though (as long as they read the instructions!!!)

Thanks guys,
Sam

Hi Sam,

I've just posted a Public update under my Postings:

http://986forum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=237764&postcount=284

Will including BOLD print for future instructions.

If anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Will do my best to accommodate.

Thank you for Understanding !

Che

[sparker]

Thanks all. Basically all I need now is a spare power steering line and I'll be back on the road.

Sam

[Steve Tinker]

Sam - bad luck with the fire, at least you caught it in time before they found you burnt to a crisp......

In regards to wrapping the headers, its a hell of a job because of the space, or lack of it...
I have found on my motorcycles and MX-5 (Miata to you Yankees ) that ceramic coating the headers internally and externally reduces heat by nearly 30% and is a permanant fix. There are quite a few companies in Australia that do it and I can recommend the heat reduction is significant and (according to the blurb) a slight power increase too.
You'll still have to tie your PS line out of the way though - the cooler the Pentosin fluid runs, the better for your PS pump.

[sparker]

Could you PM me who you have used and the approximate charge? Will look into it. Have wrapped some very tight headers before though!!!

Sam

[sparker]

more updated pictures:

contact made with header:
****

this is the connector half way down the floor, I assume this just un bolts?


Quick question, do I have to replace the line from the pump to here? Or can I possibly get it repaired by a local hose trade shop?

Also - any tips on how to get the hose off at the pump end????

Sam