What was "lost" from the 986?

[CRCGuy]

Great feedback from all of you. thanks!

I used to own a 1980 honda prelude that didn't have power steering or power brakes. I still remember what the steering felt like--I really enjoyed it.

I would definitely pay money for a stripped down Boxster with no power steering, actual throttle cable, manual top etc... I would have picked up an Elise if it wasn't so harsh as a DD. you guys are right, all this technology has insulated us from the driving experience--in an effort I guess to overcome driving skill inadequecies and improve fuel economy.

Seems there's a market for those that want a pure connection to the road but in a car that is comfortable as a DD. Like if an Elise and a Boxster had sex and produced offspring.

Anyone want to start a car company?

[Quickurt]

Originally Posted by CRCGuy

Anyone want to start a car company?

I've wanted to for years!!

How about a first generation MR2 with a 2.0 TDI Diesel and VW 7spd PDK??
The 1st gens weighed in at a miserly 2150 lb.!! The 2 liter VW TDI has more HP and about twice the torque of the Toyota 1.6 and with the 7 speed twin clutch transmission?? You gotta be kidding me!! What would it get? 70 MPG?

How about a 1500 lb. roadster built like an oversized sports racer using a Fiat 124 windshield assembly and fold down top? No AC, no PS, no PW, no BS, just a fun as hell and efficient commuter/sports car? It could use any number of front engine/front wheel drive power units, whatever you prefer.

[Bladecutter]

Originally Posted by Quickurt

I've wanted to for years!!

How about a first generation MR2 with a 2.0 TDI Diesel and VW 7spd PDK??
The 1st gens weighed in at a miserly 2150 lb.!! The 2 liter VW TDI has more HP and about twice the torque of the Toyota 1.6 and with the 7 speed twin clutch transmission?? You gotta be kidding me!! What would it get? 70 MPG?

Drop the PDK and drop the diesel fuel, and you have something worth considering.

How about a 1500 lb. roadster built like an oversized sports racer using a Fiat 124 windshield assembly and fold down top? No AC, no PS, no PW, no BS, just a fun as hell and efficient commuter/sports car? It could use any number of front engine/front wheel drive power units, whatever you prefer.

The anti-fun police would show up, take away your toy, all in the name of protecting you from yourself, and imminent happiness.

BC.

[CRCGuy]

Originally Posted by Quickurt

I've wanted to for years!!

How about a first generation MR2 with a 2.0 TDI Diesel and VW 7spd PDK??
The 1st gens weighed in at a miserly 2150 lb.!! The 2 liter VW TDI has more HP and about twice the torque of the Toyota 1.6 and with the 7 speed twin clutch transmission?? You gotta be kidding me!! What would it get? 70 MPG?

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I like it!!! I've been looking for a first gen MR2 for awhile, in parallel to my first box. it was a great design. You're combination is a good one. I was excited to see the VW Bluesport prototype. I like the diesel sports car/roadster concept. fuel economy is of course a main driver but the torque makes for great fun. maybe we'll pick up some roller MR2's and get started. We will probably have to offer a manual tranny alongside PDK--- assuming it comes up as a key buying factor for our target segment. Oh and, one of those keyless starting systems--I've always loved the idea of just pushing a start button with the key still in my pocket.

I'll round up the VC money, you start looking for those roller MR2s