02-11-2010, 09:55 AM
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Are the bushings available separately from the B&M? I remember hearing about GT3 Shifter bushings.
I wonder what a 987 shifter console + aluminum bushings would be like?
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02-11-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroked & Blown
Are the bushings available separately from the B&M? I remember hearing about GT3 Shifter bushings.
I wonder what a 987 shifter console + aluminum bushings would be like?
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Have you looked at the Schnell bushings? They are aluminum, adjustable and have a nylon insert in them. I'm sure you could buy them separate from the SS kit. The only thing I did not do was check to see if the Schnell bushings fit the OEM shifter shaft. Was not an issue during the installation.
Beside, the bushings in my OEM 987 mechanism had zero play in them. I don't see how they were an issue.
I only drove a couple 986s, but the 987 OEM shift linkage is MUCH better.
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02-11-2010, 11:31 AM
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I guess I am unusual, but I really like the feel of my short shift kit. The stock shifter was very smooth, way too long of a throw for my taste. Much more fun with the short shifting.
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02-11-2010, 12:32 PM
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I second the short shift kit...I personally like my B&M very much. The stock shifter is very long and vague to me; this coming from someone who tracks a 911 with a 915 box. Every time I drive a Box or 99X with the stock shifter, I'm reminded how glad I am to have made the upgrade.
I do agree it's all in the adjustments; slap the thing in and it probably won't feel right.
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02-11-2010, 12:47 PM
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I love my Schnell unit, too, but it seems that's the case.........love or hate!
It feels almost identical (at least from a ten year old memory) of my Swift DB4 shifting a Staffs box. Only real difference is the Staffs is a dog-clutch box.
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02-11-2010, 02:30 PM
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I've found the best middle ground with the standard 9x7 shifter assembly. The B&M was horrible even after several adjustments. Shift effort was so high that the actual shifting was slower than with stock and it took the fun out of shifting.
In regards to purchasing only the aluminum bushings with the inserts.....all I have to say is good luck with that. I tried to get some from B&M since I had to mix and match the stock shifter with B&M bushings for awhile. I wanted to buy another set of B&M bushings so I could make the shifter a complete kit again and unload it. They told me I was out of luck, to bad so sad. I guess I haven't been the only one asking/looking for their replacement bushings due to a large # of people unsatisfied with their shifter and then basically stuck with it. Schnell might be more open to helping someone out with gettting just the bushings, but I don't know.
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02-11-2010, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam
I've found the best middle ground with the standard 9x7 shifter assembly. The B&M was horrible even after several adjustments. Shift effort was so high that the actual shifting was slower than with stock and it took the fun out of shifting.
In regards to purchasing only the aluminum bushings with the inserts.....all I have to say is good luck with that. I tried to get some from B&M since I had to mix and match the stock shifter with B&M bushings for awhile. I wanted to buy another set of B&M bushings so I could make the shifter a complete kit again and unload it. They told me I was out of luck, to bad so sad. I guess I haven't been the only one asking/looking for their replacement bushings due to a large # of people unsatisfied with their shifter and then basically stuck with it. Schnell might be more open to helping someone out with gettting just the bushings, but I don't know.
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I also don't know if the OEM shafts and the replacement unit shafts (Schnell) are the same diameter. It may be a moot point. I do know the base of the actual shifter shaft, where the knob mounts, was not. For a while, I had a large lump in my shorts! (and not in the front!)
I will again make note for all: make sure the new shift shafts are compatible with OEM 987 shift knob BEFORE purchasing a kit from Schnell. I bought mine from a forum member who had never installed it. It was at least one year old and DID NOT list 987 on the box.
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02-12-2010, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam
I've found the best middle ground with the standard 9x7 shifter assembly.
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I've seen this reported quite a few times. Might have to do it.
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