Just did a Royal Purple Oil change, smoke?

[cnavarro]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

Here is an interesting oil write-up. I have zero opinion on the findings or validity:

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

The Timken Falex bearing test has largely been discredited as a valid method of testing oils - the Holden/Commodore magazine that published that article later published a retraction.

What the test shows is how much moly is in the oil - oils with a poor score have little or no moly - oils with alot (Royal Purple, Redline) have the best, etc.

The test can also be skewed depending on how you perform the test. Knowing how moly interacts with pressure and wear surfaces, it takes anywhere from say 30 seconds to five minutes for moly to form a new wear surface consisting of "glassy plates" when then are sacrificial. Depending on the pressure exerted on the torque arm and how fast the load is applied, this will affect the amount of moly wear film and it's load bearing capacity.

[Brucelee]

Get the 5-30 out of the engine. Pronto.

[violametallic-S-]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Get the 5-30 out of the engine. Pronto.

What will happen? This is the first time I used the 5 30.

[blinkwatt]

Where can I get the Royal Purple 0-40?

[mptoledo]

Originally Posted by blinkwatt

Where can I get the Royal Purple 0-40?

I have seen it at napa, do a search of autozone, and the likes and you should find it.

[gregdacat]

In the mid-west O'Reilly's Auto parts is listed on Royal Purple's website as carrying 0w-40. Don't know if you have them out West.

Go to RP's website and do a search for a location. They will not only tell you who carries their products, but which products the vendor sells.

[blinkwatt]

I've looked at Kragen's and Napa with no luck and no registered RP dealer around here has 0-40 only 5-30 and 10-30...

[Bladecutter]

Originally Posted by violametallic-S-

What will happen? This is the first time I used the 5 30.

To be honest, nothing will happen than is bad for the engine.

Here's the link to Royal Purple's tech sheets for their engine oils:

http://www.royalpurple.com/prod-pdfs/motor-oil-ps.pdf

Some important numbers to look at:
Flash Point, Fire Point, cST @ 100C, SSU @ 210F

The Flash and Fire points will tell you how hot the oil can get before it will start to break down.

The viscosities tell you how thick the oil is at the testing temperature. The higher the number is, the thicker the oil is at that temperature, and for the most part, the better that oil will protect your engine when you get it good and hot.

Your 5W-30 oil will most likely be fine if you are just driving the car like a normal person. If you track the car, or abuse the drivetrain for really long periods of time, you run the risk of the oil breaking down in the critical locations, like the piston ring to cylinder wall area, and the connecting rod bearings.

You might want to run this oil change only 5k miles.
If you want to see if you can use the oil from now on, send off an oil sample to be tested at 2500 and 5k mile intervals.

BC.

[Brucelee]

Given the price of the engine vs the price of oil, I am not sure I woud be comforted by a statement that my engine would 'likely be fine!"

But, I am risk adverse, in general.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by Bladecutter

To be honest, nothing will happen than is bad for the engine.

Here's the link to Royal Purple's tech sheets for their engine oils:

http://www.royalpurple.com/prod-pdfs/motor-oil-ps.pdf

Some important numbers to look at:
Flash Point, Fire Point, cST @ 100C, SSU @ 210F

The Flash and Fire points will tell you how hot the oil can get before it will start to break down.

The viscosities tell you how thick the oil is at the testing temperature. The higher the number is, the thicker the oil is at that temperature, and for the most part, the better that oil will protect your engine when you get it good and hot.

Your 5W-30 oil will most likely be fine if you are just driving the car like a normal person. If you track the car, or abuse the drivetrain for really long periods of time, you run the risk of the oil breaking down in the critical locations, like the piston ring to cylinder wall area, and the connecting rod bearings.

You might want to run this oil change only 5k miles.
If you want to see if you can use the oil from now on, send off an oil sample to be tested at 2500 and 5k mile intervals.

BC.

This is absolutly horrible advice, and shoujld not be followed. In fact, Bladecutter should delete his entire post. Mr. Navarro, one of the experts in the field, clearly states not to use that oil viscosity. Porsche says not to use that viscosity. Other Forum members say not to. But, BC thinks it is just "fine".

W R O N G !!!!!!

[JFP in PA]

I have to agree with Charles on this one, and I would also note that no RP oil (regardless of weight) is ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings; which is what you should be using in the car in the first place..... Get rid of the oil, and put in a 5W or 10W-40 that meets the proper ACEA ratings.

[violametallic-S-]

Looks like im gonna get that oil out ASAP. My ABS light came on for no reason and the car start to fell different kind of sluggish/ hesitation. I dunno whats going on but the car is parked and im getting that damn oil out. 100 bucks down the drain, literally....

Also, I just put in a new OEM oil filter in yesterday can I reuse it? or should I just order a new one?

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by cnavarro

The Timken Falex bearing test has largely been discredited as a valid method of testing oils - the Holden/Commodore magazine that published that article later published a retraction.

What the test shows is how much moly is in the oil - oils with a poor score have little or no moly - oils with alot (Royal Purple, Redline) have the best, etc.

The test can also be skewed depending on how you perform the test. Knowing how moly interacts with pressure and wear surfaces, it takes anywhere from say 30 seconds to five minutes for moly to form a new wear surface consisting of "glassy plates" when then are sacrificial. Depending on the pressure exerted on the torque arm and how fast the load is applied, this will affect the amount of moly wear film and it's load bearing capacity.

Excellent! Thanks, Charles. You da man when it comes to oils! Do you have a link to the retraction?