Founder of WeatherChannel: GLobal warming is greatest scam in History.

[Allen K. Littlefield]

Originally Posted by brp987

Allen - Can you quantify the effect on earth of this supposed increase in solar activity and demonstrate that it is more significant than other man-made or natural phenomena? Or is this your particular blind faith?

Regardless of the ultimate effects and causes of GW, worldwide demand and use of carbon is increasing and will continue until it is too expensive, because it's the cheapest thing out there. The chips will fall where they may.

Well let's see concerning my "blind faith". Science up to this point in time has pointed out through geology etc. that the planet has warmed and cooled through out its history. We had a mile of ice over where I am sitting right now and it is no longer here. It melted way before we had American Capitalisim. So something happend other than free citizens driving their mini vans, SUVs or Boxsters. Since the ice cap is retreating on Mars and the other planets seem to be warming, according to astronomers and other scientists, and the sun seems to be getting larger and more active I would first consider that as a reason other than nasty old freedom and consumption. Since Mr. Sun is the source of all energy, be it stored in coal, oil etc. I would first suspect that maybe that is the ongoing cause of natural climate change over the centuries. Certainly there is no evidence to run off and create legislation that further taxes us and destroys our economy until we know for sure we are causing this 'change'. I am old enough to remember the same argument for the oncoming ice age back a few years ago, a disaster promoted by the same media that does it today for GW. If you call that blind faith then I guess you have blind faith in "political science" that is promoting this scam. Does it not bother you that NO contrary debate or evidence is tolerated? That should be the big tip off itself. So no, I don't believe we are causing what has been naturally happening since the beginning of time. The question remains, why do you?

AKL

You guys don't know crap. Al Gore said global warming exists so it does. Gore is the greatest scientific mind of our time. He was the VP of the USA and won a Nobel Piece Prize. What have you guys ever done? Drive your Porsche's? We cannot deny a genius like Gore.

[brp987]

If you call that blind faith then I guess you have blind faith in "political science" that is promoting this scam. Does it not bother you that NO contrary debate or evidence is tolerated? That should be the big tip off itself. So no, I don't believe we are causing what has been naturally happening since the beginning of time. The question remains, why do you?

Did you write Jerry Falwells "Handy Dandy Pocket Evolution Refuter"? It's pretty easy to throw a few facts together and draw a conclusion. Proving it is the hard part. It sure would be nice if science worked this way rather than having to exhaustively analyze reams of conflicting data to extract the underlying truth, and have that truth point you in another direction. So, you may believe your conclusion, but it has no valid scientific basis insofar as it being quantifiable or predictive.

As far as my having blind faith in "political science" - I'm a chemist, work as a programmer. I don't believe in such thing as "political science", or christian science, much less having blind faith in it, or anything else. And I welcome all valid scientific explanations for GW. Contrary? Contrary to what?

But yeah, let's enjoy our boxsters. No more blather from me about this - promise.

[bmx672]

I wonder if Gore knows that Mars is about 98 percent CO2... hmmm, whats the temp on Mars? -400? There are many more factors than CO2.

[brp987]

Since Mr. Sun is the source of all energy, be it stored in coal, oil etc.

Geothermal? Tidal? Nuclear?

[Sboxin]

Thanks to jeffsquire and Topless for providing interesting resources.

[Triumphblack]

I thought this was a Boxster forum. Global warming is good. Without it we would still be in the ice age driving Caymans with studded snows. Thank GW, put your top down , carve a turn.