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Old 11-09-2007, 10:04 AM   #1
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Founder of WeatherChannel: GLobal warming is greatest scam in History.

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Old 11-09-2007, 10:11 AM   #2
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This should be posted in the Lounge.


That is an interesting take on global warming. I skimmed it, but got the idea.
I agree it has been over hyped, my take on it is that the planet has been around a lot longer than we have, it will deal with us if we are hurting it, either with an ice age, or killing us all in some other fashion.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:12 AM   #3
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What happens when the prescription runs out.

What a silly rant.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:52 AM   #4
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I don't remember the last time I read the words "dastardaly scientist" in a non-fiction sentence.
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It would be better if he could spell and didn't sound so much like a kook.

He is certainly right about many many "University PHD types" being cut off from the real world and desperately seeking recognition, grants, fellowships etc. He is probably right about the climate as well. It is clear from shrinking glacier evidence that our planet is warming. It is probable that humans are playing a role in this. It is also very probable that natural forces play a much greater role.

The planet Mars is experiencing similar global warming as the polar ice caps are now at the smallest size ever recorded in the last 100 years of observing. I don't think we can blame SUV's and diesel trucks, or even the Mars rover for this.

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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:47 PM   #6
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I am going to move this to the Lounge.

BTW-If Hollywood is so upset about GW, why are they still wastings TONS of carbon on making the crap movies they make.

You mean to tell me this tripe HAS to be made, GW be damned?

Just a thought.

Ditto there homes in Malibu, Aspen, and New York.

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`I am glad that you are paying attention to your own rules( #4 ) But why does it have to be only when someone makes mention of the fact that the thread does not belong. If I talked drugs or street racing and no one else said anything could the thread continue?
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`I am glad that you are paying attention to your own rules( #4 ) But why does it have to be only when someone makes mention of the fact that the thread does not belong. If I talked drugs or street racing and no one else said anything could the thread continue?
I donít imagine Bruce reads every post as soon as it is made. He gets to more than I could ever get to in his place, but probably not until after several other forum members have already read it and made the suggestion. I would guess itís a matter of timing.
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tnx's Doc....I was going to say that, i don't think Bruce sit all day in front of his computer and watch every single discussion in this thread/forum...


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`I am glad that you are paying attention to your own rules( #4 ) But why does it have to be only when someone makes mention of the fact that the thread does not belong. If I talked drugs or street racing and no one else said anything could the thread continue?

As has been pointed out, I have a life outside this forum and am not on it 24/7.

When I discover something or it is called to my attention, I try to act promptly.

Hence, the use of the word ONLY in your statement is not correct.

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As has been pointed out, I have a life outside this forum and am not on it 24/7.

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whow...wait a minute...Bruce has life outside the forum

hahahahahahahaha!
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whow...wait a minute...Bruce has life outside the forum

hahahahahahahaha!

Strange but true!

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I'm really into NASA and space etc...

What the mainstream media does not tell you is that EVERY planet in the solar system is experiencing global warming right now, yet there are no humans on them? Hmmm. I doubt that my neighbors SUV is causing Jupiter to get warmer... but the again, I be the media can sell that too.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:42 PM   #15
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Blame old Sol

Supposedly the sun is getting larger. If that is true, it stands to reason that it would get hotter here on earth and across the solar system. On the positive side, a warmer climate gives convertible owners more top-down days.

We may also be in the process of the poles swapping polarity (is that redundant?). It happens every 400K yrs and we are late. One of the side effects during the gradual switch is a loss of ozone. Maybe humans aren't the cause of this either.

As you can tell, I spend too much time watching the History Channel.
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I'm really into NASA and space etc...

What the mainstream media does not tell you is that EVERY planet in the solar system is experiencing global warming right now, yet there are no humans on them? Hmmm. I doubt that my neighbors SUV is causing Jupiter to get warmer... but the again, I be the media can sell that too.

Great point. This would suggest that the solar flare actvity theory of warming is actually spot on.

Fascinating
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Great point. This would suggest that the solar flare actvity theory of warming is actually spot on.

Fascinating
There you go clouding the issue with facts...
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There you go clouding the issue with facts...

Sorry, I will repent.

Yes, GW caused by man is the consensus view.

We all live by consensus, right?

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If GW caused by carbon is such a real threat, shouldn't we be eliminating all nonesseential use of energy?

I watched the NFL yesterday.

What's with that? All this carbon release for a bunch of guys running after a ball, dressed up in body armor?

No more of that!



What about all of Seinfeld's Porsche's? How green can they be?

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Flat earth

If GW caused by carbon is such a real threat, shouldn't we be eliminating all nonesseential use of energy?

How is our failure to address the threat adequately relevant to the determination of the existence of the threat, the cause of the threat or the scope of the threat?

As to consensus, the use of the word is an understatement. The overwhelming weight of peer-reviewed scientific opinion indicates that human activity, particularly the burning of fossil fuels and the reduction of the rain forests, has dramatically increased the concentrations of CO2 and ozone in the atmosphere, reduced their re-processing and accelerated the warming of the planet. The existence of natural cycles does not refute the reality of our actions or of their effect.

Could the scientists be wrong? Sure.

But they're less likely to be wrong than a cranky guy who's got an audience for his opinions because he got rich selling storm stories. His is a flat-earth argument of conclusions for which he offers no support other than his prejudices.

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