SRT4 vs. Boxster S - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

TriGem2k · 05-31-2007, 01:22 PM

Everytime I see one while driving in my German cruiser (1997 S500 w/armor package) I just want to ram into it and see what happens.

Its always some punk kid with spikey hair revving their engine with an exhaust that sounds like fart at anything that passes them by.

Oh and they sure run quick when they see 7k+lbs steering right towards them! :troll:

Perfectlap · 05-31-2007, 01:32 PM

I dunno I drove my lady friend's Neon frequently and I'd sooner drive that then a corolla. Its actually a very nice car for a commuter. The new Honda Civic is nice too.

And although the Neon is not a sports car, it has had some very respectable results at the National level in SCCA Solo. I think the founder of EVO Autocross schools is a woman from Florida that beat allot of guys in her neon.

p.s.
When will the spikey hair fad ever end? Its like die already... it had to be at least 7 years ago that I first saw a pack of "Growing up Gotti" types at a PVD show here in NYC.

note the waxed eyebrows and lip gloss (it's David Bowie all over again).

05-31-2007, 01:48 PM

Well, to end the debate right here and now... consider this. Take a toyota corolla, add a hypothetical factory turbo suspension ect... and you have the equivelent to an srt-4 (maybe better due to frame design, but I have no clue). Is a corolla a sports car, no. While it may be quicker, it is not faster. Its like you can enter a corner at 100 in a Box and sustain it, or go 120, drop down to 80, then speed up again to be even again. While the boxster is obviously the better car, the power to weight ratio is skewed torward the neon. Thats about it, it has more bounce per ounce... lol. Now add a boxster with the same power to weight ratio and we will see who wins then.

porsche986spyder · 05-31-2007, 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Perfectlap]I dunno I drove my lady friend's Neon frequently and I'd sooner drive that then a corolla. Its actually a very nice car for a commuter. The new Honda Civic is nice too.

And although the Neon is not a sports car, it has had some very respectable results at the National level in SCCA Solo. I think the founder of EVO Autocross schools is a woman from Florida that beat allot of guys in her neon.

p.s.
When will the spikey hair fad ever end? Its like die already... it had to be at least 7 years ago that I first saw a pack of "Growing up Gotti" types at a PVD show here in NYC.

note the waxed eyebrows and lip gloss (it's David Bowie all over again).

Thanks for mentioning the SCCA. I almost forgot about that too. Yes, it is a god car for the money it cost new. I'm speaking of the RT and SRT-4 models only. Not the Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler - Neon. There is the Base level NEON that came with a smaller engine and no suspension upgrades. That's what most people see on the street. Chrysler made 2 versions of this car. One for Mom and one for the Auto Cross enthusiast. If you look it up and reseach it, you will find both size engines. A 2.0 and a 2.4 Turbo.

And that was an insult to David Bowie!

djomlas · 05-31-2007, 01:49 PM

they had that one autocross edition one (forgot the name) but still....
you can make a lot of cars go fast, thats not the point.
for how much that car cost you can pretty much take a beat up civic and put a big block in it and itll go fast, or anything pretty much, but at the end of the day you are still driving that POS, and neon out of all the things.
a 4 door grocery getter with some crap on there to make it go fast... o well, im not the one drivig it

Perfectlap · 05-31-2007, 02:01 PM

If you get beaten in your Boxster at the track or autocross by a Neon SR whatever then its a sports car.
Of course this will never happen in a front wheel drive Civic so no need to even bring up the coffee can in the back.

I would love to know what these guys below drive...
The spikey hair set in Northern New Jersey won't be caught dead in anything that doesn't hail from Bavaria (BMW). Note the pic of the sail boat in the back...classy.

porsche986spyder · 05-31-2007, 02:05 PM

Where did you find these pictures? These guys look like human clones!

Perfectlap · 05-31-2007, 02:18 PM

hey those are from perfectlap's facebook page.
Those are my BROS!!

just kidding...Google search Growing Up Gotti.
Can't believe this look never made a regular character appearance onto The Sopranos.

FrayAdjacent · 05-31-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap

If you get beaten in your Boxster at the track or autocross by a Neon SR whatever then its a sports car.
Of course this will never happen in a front wheel drive Civic so no need to even bring up the coffee can in the back.

I would love to know what these guys below drive...
The spikey hair set in Northern New Jersey won't be caught dead in anything that doesn't hail from Bavaria (BMW). Note the pic of the sail boat in the back...classy.

Dude, I've seen a Civic hatchback that would hang with a Dodge Viper. It was THAT fast. (turbocharged engine swap with nitrous) If it could HANDLE worth a darn... then yeah, you could probably be beat by it in an AX.

Does that a sports car make?

Not in my humble opinion.

(removed pic of douchebags)

drburton · 05-31-2007, 03:46 PM

So how fast is that neon?? What's the 0-60 time, is it faster than the new 2007 3.4L Boxster S?

They just look kinda silly to me, but props to them if they are that fast. I would support the notion that going fast in a straight line doesn't define a sports car.

rick3000 · 05-31-2007, 04:17 PM

Why would you spend the cash to upgrade a neon to outdo a porsche?
You would spend less cash just buying a porsche.

Adam · 06-01-2007, 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=drburton]So how fast is that neon?? What's the 0-60 time, is it faster than the new 2007 3.4L Boxster S?
[QUOTE]

Stock for stock they are comparable to the 00--04 boxster S. The boxster probably has the edge in the upper 100mph+ speed realm due to a lower drag coefficient. A 3.4L boxster S would walk away from the Neon with relative ease.

Grizzly · 05-31-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TriGem2k

Everytime I see one while driving in my German cruiser (1997 S500 w/armor package) I just want to ram into it and see what happens.

An armor plated S500??? Dude, just what kind of "toys" are you selling, anyway???

djomlas · 05-31-2007, 07:46 PM

sports car ey?

JackG · 05-31-2007, 08:33 PM

That Neon driver needs to read our parking thread. That's quite a door ding he appears to have.

Hmmm... "Neon driver". Isn't that an oxymoron?

ultimate1 · 05-31-2007, 09:26 PM

A car is a car and a fast car is a fast car but there is no substitute for a Porsche. I am not just saying that because I drive a Boxster. The reality is that there is no comparison of a 4 door sedan to a convertible. You can spend some bucks and make some upgrades to make a car go fast in a straight line but the test is what can the car do when taking a curve at high speed? Oh yeah with the sun shining and feeling the wind go through your hair at a 100+MPH.

porsche986spyder · 06-01-2007, 06:23 AM

[QUOTE=djomlas]sports car ey?

Again, you fail to understand, that image you posted is the 1st gen NEON with the 2.0L Single Overhead Cam. engine. That NEON IS a piece of crap. We are not talking about that grocery driver. The 1st gen had ALSO had an ACR and a RT 2.4L Daul Overhead Cam. It was the 2door version. Not the 4door crap you posted. I keep trying to tell people there are 2 versions of the NEON. But you just don't get it. The 2nd gen. also had the same thing but were ALL 4door from 2001-04. But they introduced the SRT-4 that came with a turbo from the factory and sport suspension. :dance:

djomlas · 06-01-2007, 06:29 AM

i think that i can put just as many groceries in that one as i can in the srt4, but they will get there noise free, and not all shaken up

at the end of the day you still drive a NEON, one way or another...but still, why wouldnt they "factory pimp out" the 2 door one but they chose the 4 door joke.

porsche986spyder · 06-01-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by djomlas

i think that i can put just as many groceries in that one as i can in the srt4, but they will get there noise free, and not all shaken up

at the end of the day you still drive a NEON, one way or another...but still, why wouldnt they "factory pimp out" the 2 door one but they chose the 4 door joke.

Because Chrysler likes to use "PLATFORM" frames and chassi for as many cars as posible. I.E. the 4 door NEON SRT-4 is the same frame and chassi as the 4 door PT Cruiser. Chrysler knows how to make mutiple cars built on the same frame, that's how they save money. The Dodge Charger is the same car underneath as the Dodge Magnum. That's why they call it a Platform build.

The Dodge STR-4 was the only car ever made to come with a FACTORY turbo that ALSO included MOPAR FACTORY WARRANTIED upgrades to a stage 1, 2, & 3!

TriGem2k · 06-01-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly

An armor plated S500??? Dude, just what kind of "toys" are you selling, anyway???

It was my mom’s anniversary gift from my dad back in 1997.

He just bought it like that. In fact we never knew it was armor plated until I started driving it about a year ago and had to take it in for service. When I saw it on the lift I asked the tech why the underbody looked different then all the other ones in the shop. That’s when he explained that some of the "big body S500" came armor plated from the factory.

It’s pretty cool. Now I drive through South Central LA throwing all kinds of gang signs.....Just Kidding.