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		|  03-27-2007, 08:47 AM | #1 |  
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				@ DrBurton - Wheels SOLD
			 
 
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Hi,
 
Just curious... did you sell them to this guy possibly? If so, he's flipping them on another Forum. 
 
Username: Mike Power:
For sale 18inch wheels with tires Boxster S 2005 model 
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 I sell my 18inch Boxster S 2005(model) wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires. I have done with the wheels 16.000 miles and the tires are newer and I have only done 4.000 miles. They have no scratch at all. Contact me for more details and photos. I live in Greece.
 E-mail : mpowersurf@hotmail.com
 Tel.Number : 0030 6977712112
 I ask for 3000euro *sic. (3,000 Euro = 3,986.52 US Dollar )
 
Btw, it's just his 1st Post on that Board. Seems like too many coincidences to me... Especially the Car MY, Tire Make and Mileage, and the timing...
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 08:50 AM | #2 |  
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			yah, Jim..I saw that one too on the other forum this morning     |  
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		|  03-27-2007, 08:57 AM | #3 |  
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			Why would he say there's 16k miles on the wheels, though. Covering up tracks, perhaps?Z.
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:02 AM | #4 |  
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				 Why would he say there's 16k miles on the wheels, though. Covering up tracks, perhaps?Z.
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Hi,
 
      May have asked how many miles did the wheels alone accumulate.  I was in contact with Doc (1st in line actually) about these wheels and was interested because he's just across town and I could pick them up locally - Huge savings.  We agreed on a price and then I found they didn't fit.  I actually thought of picking them up anyway and flipping them, but didn't think that was fair to Doc, so I let them go.  But Doc has an '05 'S' and Mich SP2's w/ 4k mi. on them, pretty coincidental if they're not his old wheels...
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:14 AM | #5 |  
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			Sorry, Jim. For some reason I thought Doc stated that the wheels had 4k miles on them. Yes, this does look like a flip -- though nothing illegal about that. 
 So looks like used stock 987 18"s could bring much more than $1500. Good to know.
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:16 AM | #6 |  
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			Wheel-rim arbitrage is a tough way to make a living.  Drburtons price was a good deal but flipper or no that MPower guy will be waiting a long time to get $4000 USD for 18" 987 S.
		 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:24 AM | #7 |  
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				 Wheel-rim arbitrage is a tough way to make a living.  Drburtons price was a good deal but flipper or no that MPower guy will be waiting a long time to get $4000 USD for 18" 987 S. |  
But if the guy did buy them from DrBurton, the US dollar is very weak now vs. the Euro!
 
$1,500 USD is < 1,125 Euro.
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:39 AM | #8 |  
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				He's shipping the wheels to the UK?
			 
 
			Hope he gets paid; one local guy  who posts on the board was really interested.
		 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:50 AM | #9 |  
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			Not to get too geeky about it, but it's pretty obvious that MPower used yesterday's spot rate of 1.33 because 3000 Euros is almost exactly $4000 dollars.  But my comment about the soft market for 18" 987S wasn't based on currency conversion.
 1.  There's fitment issues for 986 owners
 2.  Obviously 987 S owners have them or "better"
 3.  The market is restricted to 05-06 model year base owners as they're not fitted for TPMS, but many of these owners have upgraded rims
 4.  Track users aren't going to pay $4000 for limited use wheels
 4.  The market is not only soft but declining.  For example, in 2005 Wheel enhancements were selling the rims-only for $2,500 but they're now offered at $1500.  Obviously, used tires aren't worth $2500.
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:51 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by z12358
					
				 Sorry, Jim. For some reason I thought Doc stated that the wheels had 4k miles on them. Yes, this does look like a flip -- though nothing illegal about that. 
 So looks like used stock 987 18"s could bring much more than $1500. Good to know.
 
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Hi,
 
      No there is nothing illegal about it.  And, had I paid the asking price, or even done the deal w/ a stranger, I might feel differently.  
 
      But, Doc and I negotiated a good price.  And at least morally, if I had bought them and flipped them, I would have felt I cheated Doc, because I think our price was reached partly due to being fellow members of this forum.  
 
      Nothing illegal, but I would have felt like I was taking advantage of Doc's fairness and generosity if I had.  
 
      I like looking at this Mug  in the mirror every morning and want to keep it that way...
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 09:59 AM | #11 |  
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				 Hi,
 No there is nothing illegal about it.  And, had I paid the asking price, or even done the deal w/ a stranger, I might feel differently.
 
 But, Doc and I negotiated a good price.  And at least morally, if I had bought them and flipped them, I would have felt I cheated Doc, because I think our price was reached partly due to being fellow members of this forum.
 
 Nothing illegal, but I would have felt like I was taking advantage of Doc's fairness and generosity if I had.
 
 I like looking at this Mug in the mirror every morning and want to keep it that way...
 
 Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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Absolutely agree. Didn't mean to imply I'd have acted differently. Though, the outside guy maybe doesn't share the same fellowship thus feeling less morally constrained about the flip.  
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		|  03-27-2007, 11:37 AM | #12 |  
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			That guy didn't buy my wheels.  I sold them to a member at the caymanclub.net.  He lives in North Carolina and is using the wheels as an extra set for Autocross. 
 I did sell the wheels for a good deal and partially b/c I was selling them within the Porsche community.  Had I gone to E-bay I would have asked for more.
 
 On a side note.  Jim, if you purchased the wheels from me and resold them I would have been fine with that.  Wanted them out of the garage and that would have saved me the hassle of shipping.
 
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		|  03-27-2007, 12:01 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by drburton
					
				 ...On a side note.  Jim, if you purchased the wheels from me and resold them I would have been fine with that.  Wanted them out of the garage and that would have saved me the hassle of shipping. |  
Hi,
     NOW  you tell me... lol  Well, I guess that's why they call it coincidence, hellava one though...
 
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