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Old 03-27-2007, 08:47 AM   #1
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@ DrBurton - Wheels SOLD

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"Wheels are SOLD"

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Hi,

Just curious... did you sell them to this guy possibly? If so, he's flipping them on another Forum.

Username: Mike Power:

For sale 18inch wheels with tires Boxster S 2005 model

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I sell my 18inch Boxster S 2005(model) wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires. I have done with the wheels 16.000 miles and the tires are newer and I have only done 4.000 miles. They have no scratch at all. Contact me for more details and photos. I live in Greece.
E-mail : mpowersurf@hotmail.com
Tel.Number : 0030 6977712112
I ask for 3000euro
*sic. (3,000 Euro = 3,986.52 US Dollar )

Btw, it's just his 1st Post on that Board. Seems like too many coincidences to me... Especially the Car MY, Tire Make and Mileage, and the timing...

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:50 AM   #2
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yah, Jim..I saw that one too on the other forum this morning
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:57 AM   #3
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Why would he say there's 16k miles on the wheels, though. Covering up tracks, perhaps?
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:02 AM   #4
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Why would he say there's 16k miles on the wheels, though. Covering up tracks, perhaps?
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Hi,

May have asked how many miles did the wheels alone accumulate. I was in contact with Doc (1st in line actually) about these wheels and was interested because he's just across town and I could pick them up locally - Huge savings. We agreed on a price and then I found they didn't fit. I actually thought of picking them up anyway and flipping them, but didn't think that was fair to Doc, so I let them go. But Doc has an '05 'S' and Mich SP2's w/ 4k mi. on them, pretty coincidental if they're not his old wheels...

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Old 03-27-2007, 09:14 AM   #5
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Sorry, Jim. For some reason I thought Doc stated that the wheels had 4k miles on them. Yes, this does look like a flip -- though nothing illegal about that.

So looks like used stock 987 18"s could bring much more than $1500. Good to know.

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Old 03-27-2007, 09:16 AM   #6
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Wheel-rim arbitrage is a tough way to make a living. Drburtons price was a good deal but flipper or no that MPower guy will be waiting a long time to get $4000 USD for 18" 987 S.
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Wheel-rim arbitrage is a tough way to make a living. Drburtons price was a good deal but flipper or no that MPower guy will be waiting a long time to get $4000 USD for 18" 987 S.
But if the guy did buy them from DrBurton, the US dollar is very weak now vs. the Euro!

$1,500 USD is < 1,125 Euro.
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He's shipping the wheels to the UK?

Hope he gets paid; one local guy who posts on the board was really interested.
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Not to get too geeky about it, but it's pretty obvious that MPower used yesterday's spot rate of 1.33 because 3000 Euros is almost exactly $4000 dollars. But my comment about the soft market for 18" 987S wasn't based on currency conversion.

1. There's fitment issues for 986 owners
2. Obviously 987 S owners have them or "better"
3. The market is restricted to 05-06 model year base owners as they're not fitted for TPMS, but many of these owners have upgraded rims
4. Track users aren't going to pay $4000 for limited use wheels
4. The market is not only soft but declining. For example, in 2005 Wheel enhancements were selling the rims-only for $2,500 but they're now offered at $1500. Obviously, used tires aren't worth $2500.
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Sorry, Jim. For some reason I thought Doc stated that the wheels had 4k miles on them. Yes, this does look like a flip -- though nothing illegal about that.

So looks like used stock 987 18"s could bring much more than $1500. Good to know.

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No there is nothing illegal about it. And, had I paid the asking price, or even done the deal w/ a stranger, I might feel differently.

But, Doc and I negotiated a good price. And at least morally, if I had bought them and flipped them, I would have felt I cheated Doc, because I think our price was reached partly due to being fellow members of this forum.

Nothing illegal, but I would have felt like I was taking advantage of Doc's fairness and generosity if I had.

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Hi,

No there is nothing illegal about it. And, had I paid the asking price, or even done the deal w/ a stranger, I might feel differently.

But, Doc and I negotiated a good price. And at least morally, if I had bought them and flipped them, I would have felt I cheated Doc, because I think our price was reached partly due to being fellow members of this forum.

Nothing illegal, but I would have felt like I was taking advantage of Doc's fairness and generosity if I had.

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Absolutely agree. Didn't mean to imply I'd have acted differently. Though, the outside guy maybe doesn't share the same fellowship thus feeling less morally constrained about the flip.
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That guy didn't buy my wheels. I sold them to a member at the caymanclub.net. He lives in North Carolina and is using the wheels as an extra set for Autocross.

I did sell the wheels for a good deal and partially b/c I was selling them within the Porsche community. Had I gone to E-bay I would have asked for more.

On a side note. Jim, if you purchased the wheels from me and resold them I would have been fine with that. Wanted them out of the garage and that would have saved me the hassle of shipping.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:01 PM   #13
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...On a side note. Jim, if you purchased the wheels from me and resold them I would have been fine with that. Wanted them out of the garage and that would have saved me the hassle of shipping.
Hi,

NOW you tell me... lol Well, I guess that's why they call it coincidence, hellava one though...

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