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Old 06-07-2006, 10:20 AM   #1
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Why?

I dont get it? Why was my legit add for the CaymanS engine delted?

Who owns the site? The sponsor's or the members?


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Old 06-07-2006, 02:25 PM   #2
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The simple straight answer is neither owns this forum. Brucelee and I own this forum.

This is why we personally moderate the "for sale posts"....we have site sponsors who have paid us money for the opportunity to place directed advertisements and we give them additional latitude to post "for sale" items too.

We welcome individuals to post their personally owned "for sale" items. I let your original post go through - assuming it was so esoteric that it had to be a one off type of item. We can discuss whether you would like to post additional items on this forum as a "selling channel" for your Porsche business/shop.
If the answer is yes, then Brucelee and I would prefer you become a site sponsor.

If you are selling personally owned, for personal profit items then go ahead and post.

Feel free to PM me or Brucelee so we can take this offline.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:19 PM   #3
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I dont work for shop. I race a BOXSTER that is supported by a "shop" (like 50% of the racers out there) Not one time did I bring up that shop name in the ad I posted. I can install that CaymanS engine in anyones garage with normal hand tools.

I have ran/owned several Porsche shops over a 17 year period. I have traveled the US with different professional race teams in the ALMS and Grand Am as a hired gun since 1999 (Porsches)

I work in the computer industry as a security consultant.

It is amusing that people "jump" when they think something is wrong, when in fact NO rule was broken.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:35 AM   #4
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So do you personally own this engine that is for sale or does the shop that supports you?
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I dont work for shop. I race a BOXSTER that is supported by a "shop" (like 50% of the racers out there) Not one time did I bring up that shop name in the ad I posted. I can install that CaymanS engine in anyones garage with normal hand tools.

I have ran/owned several Porsche shops over a 17 year period. I have traveled the US with different professional race teams in the ALMS and Grand Am as a hired gun since 1999 (Porsches)

I work in the computer industry as a security consultant.

It is amusing that people "jump" when they think something is wrong, when in fact NO rule was broken.
I guess I am NOT in the right mood this AM for your last quote. No one is forcing you to be here, this is a voluntary endeavor for all of our forum members.

You have a commerical web site where you sell your services to Porsche type folks.

In my mind that makes you a professional who makes at least part of his living in the Porsche/auto space.

To me, that makes you someone who needs to either be a sponsor or find someplace else to sell your engine.

If that does that make sense to you, so be it.

You can find another forum to post your engine.

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You have a commerical web site where you sell your services to Porsche type folks.

Can you point this out?

I own a club site like yours where I sell NOTHING. Not even used parts. I even manage to maintain the site for FREE with no advertising for 6k+ members and 4 years.

a professional who makes at least part of his living in the Porsche/auto space.

Umm. NO. I give away tons and tons of free information and solid tech advice 99% of the time with good digital pics and descriptions. I make NO money from the Porsche industry.

I spoke with Pete Stout of Excellence magazine about this two weekends ago over lunch, about how the "vendors" who place ads in his magazine *think* they can control the content. You will find that a LOT of people think this is ******.

I have ZERO to gain by selling that engine for a friend. I *thought* YOUR Boxster owners might be interested in something straight from the factory for their cars. Something that provides close to 100hp increase for some owners. You/The Vendors decided your group didnt need to see that engine for sale.

Cool. Keep up the good work! [IMG]]
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THAT's FUNNY!!!

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Old 06-08-2006, 12:06 PM   #8
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So do you personally own this engine that is for sale or does the shop that supports you?
I do not own the engine. A friend of mine just had a shop complete a X51 engine install in his CaymanS. I told him I would try and help him sell the engine.

I didnt know it was going to be such a pain in the a**.
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