Rebuilt engine options?

[FredinVa]

Originally Posted by flmont

It would be Great to build a bulletproof engine for these cars ,I think it could be done with the collective knowledge of this board very easily, its the technical know how and tooling I think is a big issue,then its the,which parts are the best for long term use,Jake seems to have the answer,If you could ever get them to mass produce and then sell them,.I think he could make 2 fortunes by selling to the Porsche masses..but of course not at 20K ea,..8-12 K would seem fair enough..to me volume is the money maker.

I agree.

I am actually surprised Porsche does not sell crate engines, given the number of cars that need them.

If my Corvette motor dies, I can go to Chevy:

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance-parts/crate-engines/ls/ls3

If my Fox Body Mustang dies, I can go to Ford:

https://performanceparts.ford.com/engines/#302


It seems like Porsche would see the market for crate engines. I understand there would be a price difference from Ford & Chevy, but the skill level difference between pulling an engine and building an engine is big enough to warrant the market for crate engines IMHO.

[Robert986]

Not to hijack the original thread but since it´s being discussed..

How hard is it really.. to rebuild a M96 on your own? I have rebuilt one engine and fixed and serviced a lot of others, but never opened up a Porsche engine, certainly not the M96. Sometimes it sound like it really is rocket science and you need to pay a super premium to get it rebuilt.

I have a very vague fantasy about one day rebuilding a M96 myself with the specs and improvements I want..

Can it be done by a "normal" car-guy just taking it slow an paying attention to details?

[Homeoboxter]

Originally Posted by Robert986

Not to hijack the original thread but since it´s being discussed..

How hard is it really.. to rebuild a M96 on your own? I have rebuilt one engine and fixed and serviced a lot of others, but never opened up a Porsche engine, certainly not the M96. Sometimes it sound like it really is rocket science and you need to pay a super premium to get it rebuilt.

I have a very vague fantasy about one day rebuilding a M96 myself with the specs and improvements I want..

Can it be done by a "normal" car-guy just taking it slow an paying attention to details?

Essentially it`s similar to any other engine, not rocket science. Of course, it`s more complicated than, say, an in-line four due to the flat arrangement, so you need more special tools for a rebuild and there is a number of steps that are not plausable. What is really annoying though is that there is no repair manual available, except for the used ones for over a $1000. But you can actually collect all the information needed from the web, it`s time consuming though.

[jsceash]

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter

Essentially it`s similar to any other engine, not rocket science. Of course, it`s more complicated than, say, an in-line four due to the flat arrangement, so you need more special tools for a rebuild and there is a number of steps that are not plausable. What is really annoying though is that there is no repair manual available, except for the used ones for over a $1000. But you can actually collect all the information needed from the web, it`s time consuming though.

I have a pdf shop manual of the boxster to 2004 but really the manual does not cover 2003-04 it stops at 2002.
I also got on the internet the 2005 -2008 shop manual. this covers engine changes on the 2003 -2007 but not the 2008
If messaged I could email them.

[jsceash]

I've built 2, 2004 motors the shop manuals mentioned do the repairs/rebuild justice. 2 tool kits are required pin kit, and timing kit, torque wrench to 7nm and angel gauge. parts and tool with LN block mod could be done for $10K. improved for another 2-5K. the one upgrade is carrillo rods, these are a must if you accidently over rev.

I've seen several ford, Chevy, and Audi hack jobs all require body chopping and weld reconstruction. I was not impressed.

[Qingdao]

Originally Posted by jsceash

I've seen several ford, Chevy, and Audi hack jobs all require body chopping and weld reconstruction. I was not impressed.

Meh, I'll take a hack job over rebuilding an engine every 150 000 miles.

I'm not too impressed with Porsche's engineering of the water cooled H6. I mean Subaru does a great job with power to boot*; what stopped Porsche from following Subaru's lead.


*I will say that there is an issue with head gaskets. LOL

[Quadcammer]

Originally Posted by Robert986

Not to hijack the original thread but since it´s being discussed..

How hard is it really.. to rebuild a M96 on your own? I have rebuilt one engine and fixed and serviced a lot of others, but never opened up a Porsche engine, certainly not the M96. Sometimes it sound like it really is rocket science and you need to pay a super premium to get it rebuilt.

I have a very vague fantasy about one day rebuilding a M96 myself with the specs and improvements I want..

Can it be done by a "normal" car-guy just taking it slow an paying attention to details?

I built an m97 for my friends race car. Few steps which you have to sit and think about and the wrist pin clip took us 2 tries...yes you have to split case again, but overall not too bad at all. I have rebuilt a few engines as well but not an expert

[BYprodriver]

Originally Posted by FredinVa

I agree.

I am actually surprised Porsche does not sell crate engines, given the number of cars that need them.

If my Corvette motor dies, I can go to Chevy:

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance-parts/crate-engines/ls/ls3

If my Fox Body Mustang dies, I can go to Ford:

https://performanceparts.ford.com/engines/#302


It seems like Porsche would see the market for crate engines. I understand there would be a price difference from Ford & Chevy, but the skill level difference between pulling an engine and building an engine is big enough to warrant the market for crate engines IMHO.

The Ford "Fox" body is very flimsy, I worked for Steve Saleen in 1993 & he always said,"Brace it before you Race it, and we made,sold & installed all the parts to do that.

[Qingdao]

Originally Posted by FredinVa

If my Corvette motor dies, I can go to Chevy:

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance-parts/crate-engines/ls/ls3....

If your .................. (fill in the blank)................ motor dies you can go Chevy.


LS Swap the world. LOL