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Old 09-12-2018, 12:09 PM   #1
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This comment inevitably shows up with most products - and it's understood. It's one thing to cobble something together from cheap parts - but another to build a company, source reliable valves that start in valves closed mode, back them with a lifetime warranty, buy dozens of OEM Porsche pipes, pay a team of people to design, build in house, and back the product, do the testing, incorporate forum discounts and wholesale structure, get professional media of the product, and have enough left over to design more components. We try to take advantage of no one, but help everyone as best we can!
"Cobble something together from cheap parts"? Valves and exhaust pipes are not expensive.
That type of snide comment does not help you.
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"Cobble something together from cheap parts"? Valves and exhaust pipes are not expensive.
That type of snide comment does not help you.
I can see that I came off a bit brash, my apologies. Wasn't trying to be snide or judgmental towards any individual - and given your experience I'm sure you can produce something decent - rather being entrenched in the exhaust business you see a lot of issues (existing and potential) out there. There are a lot of available off the shelf valve options that have a tendency to fail. Realistically, it happens to all - even the highest quality Helical valves used by Porsche on the GT3 and other OEM's as it's an item that sees a lot of abuse. Someone could also go to a local exhaust shop and have something built up that doesn't have the welds back purged, rough MIG welds. For $100 you could cook something up and it doesn't matter much if it fails down the line as no one would be judging. As a company we have to make the exhaust hold up to abuse including track use and back it with a lifetime warranty. For full transparency the valves cost us just shy of $200, the valve controller just above $60, the OEM pipes are around $45 a piece, around $20 in creating the other components, around $15 in boxing and foam packing pricing and this is before labor and SG&A comes in. Forum members also get 5% off MSRP. We're trying to meet the area where we make enough money to warrant a good product, stay in business, and be fair which is tough as a small manufacturer but nothing good is easy!
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