09-13-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kill
I don’t think an apology is in order if this works out:
Think about the world we live in – phishing, lots of cons. All cons, and most phishing is based off of the same principle: they rely on getting the victim’s participation and buy in by making them think they are getting something for nothing (or are getting a deal that is slanted in their favor). This victim becomes emotionally involved and therefore doesn’t look at the deal objectively.
“I deposit $2million in your bank account if you just give me the number.”
“I will give you a free exhaust if you give me $1,000 that I promise to give back to you”
No we do not owe Che an apology. If Che’s exhaust turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread, believe me, we will hear about it and he will be a celebrity on this board. Regardless though, it will be important for Che to learn about how he is marketing his product and representing his business.
If you are truly on the up and up, your business deals should also appear beyond reproach.
If this exhaust deal works well, and Che learns to improve his marketing approach, both guys win. No apology necessary.
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You're comparing this to a phishing attack???? Seriously???? For REAL????
You must be joking. Did you fail to notice that this guy came in with verifiable references? You are not even giving him a chance to prove himself before you are convicting him of being a scam artist. With all due respect your profile says you are an auditor and I really don't think you are qualified to be critisizing anyone in the marketing approach of a small business. The first thing the SBA teaches you is big DOES NOT = small. This is ridiculous.
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09-13-2006, 08:30 PM
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Dr. Kill is merely stating the fact that we do not live in a perfect world and I tend to agree with him. The mention about $1000 is inaccurate because the exhaust is no longer required a deposit (thanks for Jeffsquire).
And no, I do not doubt Che's credentials, only that I do not agree with Che's approach. It is not related with how big or small business(es) he has, or what degree he has, it is more related to fair business practice.
I don't see any reason for an apology either, because his approach is "questionable" (see my previous posts) in the first place and we have the right to give him a piece of our mind. If our opinion sounded mean, then so be it. He is an adult and can take our opinions just fine.
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Originally Posted by der Geist
You're comparing this to a phishing attack???? Seriously???? For REAL????
You must be joking. Did you fail to notice that this guy came in with verifiable references? You are not even giving him a chance to prove himself before you are convicting him of being a scam artist. With all due respect your profile says you are an auditor and I really don't think you are qualified to be critisizing anyone in the marketing approach of a small business. The first thing the SBA teaches you is big DOES NOT = small. This is ridiculous.
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09-19-2006, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by der Geist
You're comparing this to a phishing attack???? Seriously???? For REAL????
You must be joking. Did you fail to notice that this guy came in with verifiable references? You are not even giving him a chance to prove himself before you are convicting him of being a scam artist. With all due respect your profile says you are an auditor and I really don't think you are qualified to be critisizing anyone in the marketing approach of a small business. The first thing the SBA teaches you is big DOES NOT = small. This is ridiculous.
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No, I am not convicting him and I am not comparing this to Phishing attack. I am merely pointing out that people may not be 100% open to an offer like this because of the way it was presented.
On a side note, I do appreciate you letting me know that you do not think I am qualified to market a small business idea. I will be sure to tell my business partner about your concerns.
Last edited by Dr. Kill; 09-19-2006 at 12:05 PM.
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09-20-2006, 09:50 AM
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Dfw
delubozparts,
I noticed you are in the DFW area, do you have a shop/warehouse that I could come by and visit?
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10-17-2006, 07:03 AM
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Hi, is there a cut away view of the Cat-Back system?
many thanks
bob
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10-17-2006, 07:54 AM
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Location: Addison,Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxsterSbob
Hi, is there a cut away view of the Cat-Back system?
many thanks
bob
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Hi Bob,
Currently I don't have any cut away view of the cat-back system, too expensive to cut a brand new exhaust. I will do so in future if I come across a defective system from production.
Che
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10-19-2006, 03:37 AM
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UPDATE: Timing and Status
Goodmorning,
Day two of the install is taking place. After through review of the PET it looks like there were several variations of o2 sensor locations. On my MY00 I have 2x o2 sensors per header. This is not the most common arrangement as I understand. We will be evaluating a couple of options this morning:
1. Place an o2 bung upstream of Che's and risk low efficiency.
2. Have GIAC program steady efficiency parameters for the pre-o2 on the secondary cat (first ceramic cat in the system, cloest to header).
Stay tuned, will advise,
--troy
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10-24-2006, 08:44 AM
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Location: Houston, Texas
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In a most amazing fashion, my rear trunk is now so cool that I can put most anything back there and it does not boil or melt due to the heat the stock muffler was giving off.
DelubozParts' sport exhaust not only sounds great, it's SUBSTANTIALLY cooler than the stock muffler. I knew it was smaller and had two chambers, but I didn't expect such a dramatic drop in trunk temps.
Last year, I drove the Boxster to California and I actually melted a tennis shoe lace into the sole of the tennis shoe because it rode in the rear trunk of the Boxster in summer weather.
This weekend, I drove to central Texas (4.5 hours) and as I unpacked the car I realized that the trunk wasn't hot enough to deliver pizzas any longer.
:dance:
Che, you need to advertise this about the mufflers you sell. It's worth something to those that have melted ice cream on the way home from the store, etc.!
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10-24-2006, 09:30 AM
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Location: Addison,Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
In a most amazing fashion, my rear trunk is now so cool that I can put most anything back there and it does not boil or melt due to the heat the stock muffler was giving off.
DelubozParts' sport exhaust not only sounds great, it's SUBSTANTIALLY cooler than the stock muffler. I knew it was smaller and had two chambers, but I didn't expect such a dramatic drop in trunk temps.
Last year, I drove the Boxster to California and I actually melted a tennis shoe lace into the sole of the tennis shoe because it rode in the rear trunk of the Boxster in summer weather.
This weekend, I drove to central Texas (4.5 hours) and as I unpacked the car I realized that the trunk wasn't hot enough to deliver pizzas any longer.
:dance:
Che, you need to advertise this about the mufflers you sell. It's worth something to those that have melted ice cream on the way home from the store, etc.!
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Hi Randall,
Wow this exhaust didn't turn your trunk to oven,definitely a Interesting update. Unfortunately I don't have these exhaust & header back in days when I had my Boxster, everything for Porsche cost arm & leg.
Member Darin & kwu just order the exhaust today, I even marked the 2 Holes for drill guide. They should receive the package in next 3-4 days, alsow Darin will Post a update sound clip (ie stock sound / After Exhaust installed sound).
The sale is slowly, I'm very Happy with 986forum.com members are ordering due to the fact of the Performance & Quality + Pricing.
After all I can't make it without your help in the first place, always my Buddy in Houston.
Keep in touch !
Best Regards,
Che
Last edited by delubozparts; 10-24-2006 at 02:17 PM.
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10-26-2006, 10:36 PM
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if only it was legal
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10-27-2006, 04:59 AM
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10-27-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 01slowbox
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is that a Boxster S and is that your car and what type of exhaust you put in there  :dance:
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10-27-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by unklekraker
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I wish it was mine but no... i found it on YouTube... It doesnt really have exhaust at all, just straight pipes, illegal, but it sounds cool as hell.
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11-05-2006, 04:25 PM
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Location: Sacramento
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Any update/reviews from any members who have installed Che's header or exhaust?
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11-05-2006, 04:44 PM
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My setup still sounds great! I think I like Che as much as his products. He's really responsive and has nearly instantly answered all my questions.
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01-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 01slowbox
I wish it was mine but no... i found it on YouTube... It doesnt really have exhaust at all, just straight pipes, illegal, but it sounds cool as hell.
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well, not legal in someplaces... :dance:
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09-08-2007, 03:45 AM
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delubozparts I would like to here the noise of this exhaust, as i dont want a too loud ehaust, but if its a nice sound that would be awesome.
What is the weight differance is there anything significant???
I am new to the boxster world but reading the write up on the exhaust has been good. I see they are for sale on ebay. I have a 2002 BoxsterS its a pre-facelift (although i have now changed all the lights.
How much would it cost myself for one of the plain tipped cat-back exhausts delivered to Aberdeen, Scotland???
Also do you create any for the Cayman or Carrera4s??? thank you!!
James
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