01-12-2016, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CHRISP357
This isn't Georgia so I won't be your girlfriend. Flattered though. I guess.
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Damn and I thought you had such a purdy mouth.
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2001 Boxster S 3.6L, Zeintop
"Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls." - Stirling Moss
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01-10-2016, 07:45 PM
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One hard launch is not going to smoke a clutch. Doing it n a regular basis will, and I think that's the real story here.
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01-11-2016, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark_T
One hard launch is not going to smoke a clutch. Doing it n a regular basis will, and I think that's the real story here.
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Exactly. And I'm gonna guess by the lack of replies by the original poster that we are all right. He bought a Porsche thinking he'd be the envy of every Mustang owner at stop lights. With a record of 0-34, two tickets for street racing and a burned up clutch he thought he'd come here and find out how we win our stop light drags only to find out he bought a car that isn't designed for that.
Next, his "lightly used" boxster will show up for sale in classifieds with a "might need clutch work" tag line.
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01-11-2016, 10:46 AM
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For a bone stock Boxster, go with a stock clutch and I personally recommend a dual mass flywheel unless you like metal clacking sound from your transmission. A sprung clutch will reduce clacking but the dual mass eliminates it. I think the gain from a single mass flywheel is not worth it. I had one in my 3.6 and took it out. sitting at stop lights with your car sounding like pieces are going to fall out from underneath gets old very fast.
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"Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls." - Stirling Moss
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01-11-2016, 11:05 AM
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If it helps I had an Exedy clutch for my last Celica T-Sport, but was an OEM replacement and wasn't a Stage 1. Even so it was phenominal, brilliant pedal feel with a fantastic bite. I'd recommend it
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Bi-xenon Headlight Upgrade | 987 S 18" Anthracite Alloys | Android Head Unit | 5000k 55w HID's | 5000k Cree DRL's | 5000k Cree number plate lights | Cree LED Indicators | One-touch roof operation | Bypass exhaust pipes | Parking sensors | Ambient footwell lighting
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01-11-2016, 01:47 PM
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Prelude Guy, going to the track, you sign a waiver. Every party there knows exactly what they are getting into. When you decide to do the same stupid BS on a public road, you're taking everyone else's lives in your hands and the only two people consenting are the two idiots dragging.
Don't compare apples to oranges dude, entirely different. Especially since going to the track is a legal and responsible way to enjoy the car, while stoplight drag racing is illegal and irresponsible. Enough said.
Last edited by jdraupp; 01-11-2016 at 01:50 PM.
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01-11-2016, 01:56 PM
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The guy didn't ask for someone to tell him how to drive. He asked about his clutch. I applaud the members who excercised the self restraint and civility to stick to the topic.
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01-11-2016, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyed7711
The guy didn't ask for someone to tell him how to drive. He asked about his clutch. I applaud the members who excercised the self restraint and civility to stick to the topic.
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Wash, rinse and repeat. "Just sayin' "
At the same time, to stay in the spirit of things, does anyone know the URRL for the "Bloviating Gasbag Forum"??
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01-11-2016, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyed7711
Wash, rinse and repeat. "Just sayin' "
At the same time, to stay in the spirit of things, does anyone know the URRL for the "Bloviating Gasbag Forum"??
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Quoting yourself?
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01-11-2016, 02:27 PM
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Location: Madison, Georgia
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Prelude Guy,
Track days:
1. Legal
2. Sanctioned events (PCA, SCCA, 24 hrs Lemons, Chumpcar etc.)
3. Educational with path to professional licensure
4. Held at facilities designed for high speed driving
5. Marshalls control events
6. Fire & Safety Crew on hand
7. Emergency Medical Personnel on hand
8. Communication system in place
9. Limited access to track for pedestrians & animals
10. Many schools exist to help drivers perfect their skills
I am not even going to bother to contrast street racing to this list as it is obvious and a waste of time. As to your inference that we all break the law the reality is I drive my bright ass yellow 3.6 Porsche in a more responsible fashion than my daily driver because everyone in my neighborhood knows who's car it is, it sticks out like a sore thumb and I am a cyclist and I know what it is like to have idiots drive by you at a high rate of speed and I don't wish to be "that guy."
Every place you go you are in someone's neighborhood, there is no place where people want you to drive by their house at high speed. Some people have a thing called self control because we have lived through events that have taught us to curb our testosterone and act in a manner that is not injurious to ourselves or people around us.
If you have so much mental struggle that you cannot control yourself and your vehicle in a safe and legal manner then I suggest you sell our car immediately before you hurt yourself and or someone else.
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"Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls." - Stirling Moss
Last edited by landrovered; 01-11-2016 at 02:28 PM.
Reason: spelling
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01-11-2016, 05:48 PM
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I'm 18 and I'm as much of a buzzkill as the others here. Stop endorsing showboating and irresponsible driving.
I drive my car quick and enjoy it as most others here do but I respect the car and the others around me. Yes I speed. Yes I speed a lot sometimes but you'll never see me racing, dumping the clutch, etc. that's not even what the car is made for.
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01-11-2016, 05:57 PM
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On the slippery slope
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Location: Austin and Palm Springs
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
I'm 18 and I'm as much of a buzzkill as the others here. Stop endorsing showboating and irresponsible driving.
I drive my car quick and enjoy it as most others here do but I respect the car and the others around me. Yes I speed. Yes I speed a lot sometimes but you'll never see me racing, dumping the clutch, etc. that's not even what the car is made for.
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Unfortunately Jake, you are the exception, not the rule for people 18-25
Why do you think the insurance companies charge more for men (boys) under 25?
As far as tracking your car vs street racing, one is accepted risk with safety rules and procedures in place and the other is just irresponsible and dangerous
Look what happened to Paul Walker when the moron driving the car did stupid things on city streets
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01-11-2016, 10:48 PM
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Wow. I completely forgot I signed up to ProtentiousPolice.co.uk.
This has gotten out of hand. Could people stop comparing him to street racing and do two things. 1. Look at what he said. He put his foot down for a matter of seconds. 2. We've all done it. Stop talking as if it's some sort of taboo subject, we've all done it and, like I've mentioned in my previous post, some still go out for a spirited drive. He put his foot down for a few seconds against another car on empty roads and everyone calls him an idiot. Simmer the f**k down lads.
Stay on topic and give the guy a break.
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01-11-2016, 10:50 PM
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Oh and no one else is endorsing driving like an idiot. Look at the facts and look at people's responses. It's pretty disgusting as a community to be this harsh over this small of a matter.
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01-12-2016, 07:39 AM
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It's possible, as I did exactly the same thing.
Years ago with my old Celica T-Sport at the Brecon Beacons, I was pulled over and decided to see how the car would set off with quite a harsh launch. Needless to say I didn't do it again as it slipped in a few gears for about 10 minutes later, and about an hour later I had to engage gears with a huge amount of force.
The thrust bearing was the culprit, but they obviously come as part of a clutch kit and is part of the procedure in changing a clutch. Basically what's happening is that the clutch isn't releasing all of the way when it should when your foot is pressed down.
To test this, go on a flat piece of road and put it in first. With your foot on the clutch, the car would creep forward ever so slightly (or stay still on a slight slope). When you take it out of gear, the car would return back to normal (or start rolling backwards on a slope).
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01-12-2016, 09:43 AM
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Geraintthomas, you nailed exactly how the car's current state is in, kind of mind boggling actually. By the way, I appreciate the helpful comments you've made, gave me some hope that there's still civil and helpful people amongst this community.
So I went ahead and ordered a SPEC stage 1 clutch last night. With my dual mass flywheel in good shape still, I'm going to stick with that and eliminate the potential rattle noise of a lwfw. I also purchased the Rear Main Seal and LN engineering's IMS retrofit kit(that got expensive quick  ) Not to mention the tool kit for $350...  
I found out that my IMS Bearing is a dual row IMS. Is this better than the single row IMS?
Is there anything else that anyone would recommend changing/replacing while the tranny is off?
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01-12-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubaday
Is there anything else that anyone would recommend changing/replacing while the tranny is off?
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Hmm, yes..
While there, I would replace the throw out bearing, the plastic sleeve that holds the bearing, and visually (carefully) inspect the large steel stamped arm for stress cracks..
Good luck!
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01-12-2016, 11:11 AM
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Motorist & Coffee Drinker
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Originally Posted by Dubaday
... I found out that my IMS Bearing is a dual row IMS. Is this better than the single row IMS?
Is there anything else that anyone would recommend changing/replacing while the tranny is off?
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Dual row bearings last longer and fail less often.
Consider changing the coolant expansion tank if it is original and the AOS. Also, while you are poking around in there it may be a good idea to replace the vacuum hoses on the engine. The old ones are likely to be brittle. How old is your water pump? AOS + Coolant tank + Water pump (and 160 degree thermostat while you are at it) = about another $1,000, but its well spent if you are having the down time anyway.
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01-12-2016, 11:17 AM
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On the slippery slope
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Originally Posted by Dubaday
Geraintthomas, you nailed exactly how the car's current state is in, kind of mind boggling actually. By the way, I appreciate the helpful comments you've made, gave me some hope that there's still civil and helpful people amongst this community.
So I went ahead and ordered a SPEC stage 1 clutch last night. With my dual mass flywheel in good shape still, I'm going to stick with that and eliminate the potential rattle noise of a lwfw. I also purchased the Rear Main Seal and LN engineering's IMS retrofit kit(that got expensive quick  ) Not to mention the tool kit for $350...  
I found out that my IMS Bearing is a dual row IMS. Is this better than the single row IMS?
Is there anything else that anyone would recommend changing/replacing while the tranny is off?
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There are tons of very helpful people here. The help you get depends a little on your attitude.
Maybe if you had introduced yourself before ragging on people here your responses would have been a little different
as far as the IMSB, don't be lazy, do a search, there are lots of threads on that subject
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01-12-2016, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JayG
There are tons of very helpful people here. The help you get depends a little on your attitude.
Maybe if you had introduced yourself before ragging on people here your responses would have been a little different
as far as the IMSB, don't be lazy, do a search, there are lots of threads on that subject
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You're definitely right on that, I did a poor job with an intro to who I am. I was so caught up with what just happened to my car, and people skills didn't even get put into the factor. I apologize for coming off as that "kid" who is reckless on the public roads.
My name is Randy. I'm 24, from Seattle, WA . My dad was a mechanic his whole life so i have a tiny bit of backyard mechanic skills. He sold me his boxster S after purchasing a 05 996 turbo S, and a few months later, I ruin the clutch.
Once again, apologies for coming off the way I did.
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