Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Performance and Technical Chat

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-27-2015, 02:51 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Pominoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
Question Anyone tried drilled or slotted rotors on a Base?

I just changed my rotors and pads, and in the end went for the standard rotors. It's an easier job than I thought so that is good. I'm still wondering if it would have made any difference, apart from the appearance if I'd have gone for slotted or drilled rotors. Has anyone tried these on a 2.7 Base, and did you think it was worth the extra money?




__________________
Boxster Base, 2002 Manual, Black.
LN Single Row Pro IMS retrofit.
Pominoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 04:16 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Xpit77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 487
I installed Powerstop drilled and slots with ceramic pads on my 99 Base 2.5 Good price.I don`t track it so maybe a bit of overkill. There is a difference. OEM is fine for a DD.
__________________
99 Boxster sold
88 944S sold
Xpit Formula Four sold
95 Integra Solo I sold
71 Opel GT sold
Xpit77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 04:25 AM   #3
Registered User
 
linderpat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: pittsburgh
Posts: 238
neither slotted nor drilled give better performance than the flat rotors you put on. Braking is all about surface area and heat dissipation. The space between the front side of the rotor and the inside of the rotor, with the vanes, allows the heat to be removed quickly and efficiently, as the rotor turns. The flat non-drilled surface provides maximum surface area for pad work and stopping power. Many argue that slotted or drilled rotor surfaces are necessary to release gases that build up as a result of the friction on the pad on the surface. That is a myth. They are really just for show. Some race cars use drilled simply as a weight saving device, but those folks understand that there is a performance trade off, and they consciously accept that. The rotors you put on are the best for performance.
__________________
Ed
Pittsburgh, PA
78 5 spd 928 Blumaxx (in Hemmings S & E issue #100)
85 928S garnet red stock daily driver
06 Mustang GT Legend Lime and modified to go even faster
linderpat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 05:33 AM   #4
Registered User
 
Pominoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by linderpat View Post
neither slotted nor drilled give better performance than the flat rotors you put on. Braking is all about surface area and heat dissipation. The space between the front side of the rotor and the inside of the rotor, with the vanes, allows the heat to be removed quickly and efficiently, as the rotor turns. The flat non-drilled surface provides maximum surface area for pad work and stopping power. Many argue that slotted or drilled rotor surfaces are necessary to release gases that build up as a result of the friction on the pad on the surface. That is a myth. They are really just for show. Some race cars use drilled simply as a weight saving device, but those folks understand that there is a performance trade off, and they consciously accept that. The rotors you put on are the best for performance.
That's pretty much the conclusion I'd come to but it's good to hear it from someone else it does make you wonder about the rotors they use on the Boxster S, maybe they're just for show.
__________________
Boxster Base, 2002 Manual, Black.
LN Single Row Pro IMS retrofit.
Pominoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 05:45 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Luv2Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 494
Garage
Several years ago, when I had the money for regular DE's, I swapped out the OEM braking system, on my '99 base 2.5L Tip, for a 2001 S big red system. The swap made a huge difference in braking at high speed specifically in turns where late braking was important. I also installed the GT air ducts for better cooling on the fronts. Although the new system has cross drilled and slotted rotors I can't say they made a difference as the whole system has to be accounted for in better braking. The Tips also carry about 400 lbs more weight than the sticks so better brakes are probably more noticeable. Now that I don't race anymore having better brakes on the road is a plus and those rotors really do look better.
Luv2Box is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 06:08 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DE
Posts: 126
I am sure the solid rotors will work just fine. FWIW, I prefer slotted rotors because I have found in the past (on other cars) that they seem to wear more evenly. My theory on this is that the wiping action of the slots helps clean brake dust from between the pad and rotor which would otherwise form an uneven surface and cause uneven wear. Also, in cold rainy weather the slots seem to add a bit of extra bite. I've only run slotted rotors on my boxster, so I can't make a comparison to solid rotors on it.
spendy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 06:57 AM   #7
Certified Boxster Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7,669
I have used multiple sets of solid, drilled, and slotted rotors.

For normal street driving, there isn't much difference between them. You can choose by price or by looks to get what you want.

For serious performance driving, the drilled rotors are by far my first choice. This is just my personal experience after using all three types on the track.

It could be a myth or all in my head and there might not be any true difference in braking performance, but I do know that I like the feel of the pedal modulation better with the drilled rotors. That much IS real.

The drawback is that track driving on drilled rotors will cause the rotor to crack out from the holes and will need replacement at every pad change. This typically won't happen on the street.
__________________
1999 996 C2 - sold - bought back - sold for more
1997 Spec Boxster BSR #254
1979 911 SC
POC Licensed DE/TT Instructor

Last edited by thstone; 06-27-2015 at 02:19 PM.
thstone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 08:20 AM   #8
Track rat
 
Topless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern ID
Posts: 3,701
Garage
Personal preference more than anything. I ran mostly Zimmerman (plain) rotors on my 986 and preferred them over drilled for maximum heat sink in track use. Slotted work well and also I have drilled on the 987.2 Cay which seem fine so far. Only a few track days in the Cayman though so the next set may change.

The other difference is in rotor cast quality. German cast rotors are very uniform and tend to last much longer than the cheapie Chinese knockoffs. They do cost more but tend to wear very evenly and don't have to be changed as often. I think this is more important than rotor style.
__________________
2009 Cayman 2.9L PDK (with a few tweaks)
PCA-GPX Chief Driving Instructor-Ret.

Last edited by Topless; 06-27-2015 at 08:32 AM.
Topless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 10:29 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Pominoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless View Post
Personal preference more than anything. I ran mostly Zimmerman (plain) rotors on my 986 and preferred them over drilled for maximum heat sink in track use. Slotted work well and also I have drilled on the 987.2 Cay which seem fine so far. Only a few track days in the Cayman though so the next set may change.

The other difference is in rotor cast quality. German cast rotors are very uniform and tend to last much longer than the cheapie Chinese knockoffs. They do cost more but tend to wear very evenly and don't have to be changed as often. I think this is more important than rotor style.
Seems like there is a bit of a range of opinions about this. I've put on Zimmerman rotors and Textar pads. Both seem very good so far, and with the possible exception of the look compared to drilled, I'm very happy. Unfortunately the cost of these parts in Australia is stupid, and it was still cheaper to get them from Pelican in the US including the $150 postage, than it is to buy some no name Chinese parts locally. How can that be? I don't know.
__________________
Boxster Base, 2002 Manual, Black.
LN Single Row Pro IMS retrofit.
Pominoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 08:33 AM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ocean Springs, Ms.
Posts: 30
I have Brembo calipers and slotted, drilled rotors on my '99 base...
I will also add that I have Porsche 19" wheels as well....
I like the feel of my Brembos which I also have on my Volvo 850 turbo (and seriously tweaked).

I like the feel of them and get pretty good mileage out of them...
timlawton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 05:57 PM   #11
Registered User
 
993innc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: At the Beach in NC
Posts: 102
I have Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors with Pagid yellow(f) Porterfield (r) pads and the stopping (on track - track only car) and the stopping is amazing. Only done one w/e at Road Atlanta with them so far, but plenty satisfied! Burned out Zimmerman drilled rotors after only 3 w/e's. Cracked badly while still looking new!! Junk!!
I also run GT3 factory air diverter (ducts) to the brakes to aid in cooling, could probably use more cooling under really heavy braking conditions.
__________________
Chris
- 1997 993 (started it all) - 1975 914 1.8L w/F.I. (restoring now) - 1985 "1958" 356 Speedster (cruiser until 914 is complete)- 2002 Boxster (future, ney...current! track car)
RENT ME FOR YOUR NEXT VACATION: www.vrbo.com/489534 or www.vrbo.com/499924
993innc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2015, 06:11 PM   #12
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 215
Garage
Speaking of rotors, not trying to highjack just got a quick question...Where did I go wrong with these brand new rotors that are rusting? Its just cosmetic but obviously its a serious contrast to the rims and spacer and a huge annoyance Id like to avoid for my future rotors.

__________________
02 Seal Grey 5 Speed
TypeA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 12:57 PM   #13
Track rat
 
Topless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern ID
Posts: 3,701
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeA View Post
[SIZE="2"]Speaking of rotors, not trying to highjack just got a quick question...Where did I go wrong with these brand new rotors that are rusting? Its just cosmetic but obviously its a serious contrast to the rims and spacer and a huge annoyance Id like to avoid for my future rotors.
Next time get rotors with painted hats and they won't rust out like these.
__________________
2009 Cayman 2.9L PDK (with a few tweaks)
PCA-GPX Chief Driving Instructor-Ret.
Topless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 10:10 AM   #14
Registered User
 
njbray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: santa barbara, CA & Devon, UK
Posts: 316
Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeA View Post
Speaking of rotors, not trying to highjack just got a quick question...Where did I go wrong with these brand new rotors that are rusting? Its just cosmetic but obviously its a serious contrast to the rims and spacer and a huge annoyance Id like to avoid for my future rotors.

Give them a light sanding and then spray paint with Barbeque or high heat black - mask off the rotor as much as possible - the brakes will clean off any small amount of overspay.
njbray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 02:49 PM   #15
Registered User
 
njbray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: santa barbara, CA & Devon, UK
Posts: 316
Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeA View Post
Speaking of rotors, not trying to highjack just got a quick question...Where did I go wrong with these brand new rotors that are rusting? Its just cosmetic but obviously its a serious contrast to the rims and spacer and a huge annoyance Id like to avoid for my future rotors.

Give them a light sanding and then spray paint with Barbeque or high heat black - mask off the rotor as much as possible - the brakes will clean off any small amount of overspay.
njbray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 03:33 AM   #16
Registered User
 
Pominoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeA View Post
Speaking of rotors, not trying to highjack just got a quick question...Where did I go wrong with these brand new rotors that are rusting? Its just cosmetic but obviously its a serious contrast to the rims and spacer and a huge annoyance Id like to avoid for my future rotors.
What make are they? I'm hoping my Z Coat rotors will look good for a while.
__________________
Boxster Base, 2002 Manual, Black.
LN Single Row Pro IMS retrofit.
Pominoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 12:05 PM   #17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 7,243
Zinc coated rotors will look good for a long time.

OP: I have cross drilled rotors on my base boxster and they make the car look like an S and they were actually cheaper than Porsche replacement discs.

If you want a really cheap upgrade to your brakes, replace the factory brake lines with stainless braided ones off eBay. Pedal difference is like before Viagra and after Viagra. Nice and stiff.
RandallNeighbour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2016, 03:52 PM   #18
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1
Is it possible to do a complete swap of the drilled rotors and the larger calipers from the s model onto the base model (99-02)?
Athom03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2016, 04:10 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Luv2Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 494
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Athom03 View Post
Is it possible to do a complete swap of the drilled rotors and the larger calipers from the s model onto the base model (99-02)?
Yes, mine came off an '01 S but you must have 17" wheels minimum and the rear axle housings have to be swapped out so the emergency brake will work. The axle housings, from an S are larger due to the S axles being larger in diameter so you will either have to change axles or rig a bracket for the axle rotation counter so it fits closer to the smaller axle on your base model otherwise your ABS light will come on. It actually sounds more complicated than it is but, at least to me, it was worth the swap and I've had no issues in three years of use. I did not swap axles but opted for a mounting bracket for the rotation counter and have had no issues with it as well.

Luv2Box is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page