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Old 04-13-2006, 12:37 PM   #1
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So I'm looking at this:

from Evo http://www.evoms.com/porsche%20ec%20art%20test.htm click Boxster then Intake.
...They sell for $379 which is a bit steep for an intake but considering the CNC maf housing I know that’s a bit of work for setup and making them all so that’s worth some money plus all the R&D testing it etc.. it seems pretty good....
Don't let the words "CNC" make you think it's some high-fallutin-fancy-schmancy-expensive part. It's a freaking piece of metal with a few holes welded onto some tubing.

I could have that "CNC" part + the tube + welding + paint manufactured at any machine shop with a Swiss tool for around $6.00 total at quantities of 50-100. Over 100 it would drop drastically.

The whole thing looks like it could be manufactured and assembled for around $50.00 - probably $25.00. If people are willing to spend $379.00 for that - I'm in the wrong business....

Regardless - I'd love a new intake....
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:25 PM   #2
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I have intake and I do feel the gain when you go above 4500rpm. I got the intake for the increase in performance, but what I really like is the sound it makes when you floor the car. For $379, it's a nice upgrade. The only problem is that it is a pain to install it.

Porsche Doc, thanks for the advice from your previous posts - I got the intake first, then the muffler. I'll be installing the 2nd Cat bypass and then lastly, - the chip.

Porsche Doc, one more question. Have you install any chips from Powerchip? They have a gold 93 Octane gas option that increase hp by 22 vs. 15. I think GIAC only have one program running on 91 Octane at 15hp increase. Also, Powerchip claims that the increase does not have to be combine with the new intake. Is this possible?
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:59 PM   #3
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If people are willing to spend $379.00 for that - I'm in the wrong business....
Last time I got off the phone with you I thought the same thing. You ARE in the wrong business. You and I should be making this stuff for the Boxster and offering it for far less than EVO, which will still make it highly profitable.

BTW, I have yet to find a machine shop in Houston to do what we talked about on the phone a couple of months ago. Been too busy, but I'm still working on it.
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:18 PM   #4
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Last time I got off the phone with you I thought the same thing. You ARE in the wrong business. You and I should be making this stuff for the Boxster and offering it for far less than EVO, which will still make it highly profitable.

BTW, I have yet to find a machine shop in Houston to do what we talked about on the phone a couple of months ago. Been too busy, but I'm still working on it.
You need to stop going to the Doctor and get with the program there buddy! There are a few "parts" that I need to replace but I've been holding off on doing it myself because of our conversation. Well, that and I respect my elders.

But, I'm just not going to pay what Porsche is asking when I can design/fab a better part - cheaper!
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:26 PM   #5
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I have the EVO and I love it. The sound is fantastic matched with a B and B exhaust!
Definate gains can be felt in performance.

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Old 04-14-2006, 04:58 AM   #6
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Don't let the words "CNC" make you think it's some high-fallutin-fancy-schmancy-expensive part. It's a freaking piece of metal with a few holes welded onto some tubing.

I could have that "CNC" part + the tube + welding + paint manufactured at any machine shop with a Swiss tool for around $6.00 total at quantities of 50-100. Over 100 it would drop drastically.

The whole thing looks like it could be manufactured and assembled for around $50.00 - probably $25.00. If people are willing to spend $379.00 for that - I'm in the wrong business....

Regardless - I'd love a new intake....
Yeah, I'm aware of the CNC part. The piece that the sensor hooks too is CNC cut and it's a tube with the same ID welded to it. However it does take time for all this to be developed and do all the R&D. The plastic is injection moulded which costs for the first one but you can pump them out afterwards.

I'm currently in the finishing stages helping with R&D on a Tensioner Pully for high HP honda motors, it's all CNC and fairly simple. We have spent about 400hr's on it so far and a lot of money. They are finally done and should cost us about $25 each after it's all done. The first 200 we sell will only get our money back, so it's not that profitable.

Regardless I can see $375 is expensive but nobody else has built something better or cheaper so really we have to pay to play. I'm not all that worried about the cost, but more how it works. It's more work for me to develop something custom myself vs buy something for that price thats already done. My time is worth more than $375 if you know where I'm coming from. So for me thats a descent price really.

Well it seems like it's really getting good reviews, so sounds like we have a winner here for an intake. Glad to hear it really sounds the business too, thats nice. I much prefer an intake roar vs. a loud exhaust system. A nice balance of the two is music to my ears.
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