Dropped set screw into IMS bearing flange hole

[Spinnaker]

If the possibility of using a magnet from the outside of the case sounds like something you might try, get one of these from Harbor Fright'. It is the strongest magnet I have come across that is easily obtained.
Retrieving Magnet, 250 Lb. Pull

Got one to retrieve tools that get dropped off the dock when working on the boat. If you have ever been around boats, then you know that its only a matter of time until something visits Davy Jones.
Here's a pic of it holding a 5/16" set screw through a 1" thick bar of aluminum.
If you lived closer, I'd let you borrow mine. They are currently on sale for $19.99

[Jake Raby]

If you get that magnet near the engine you'll magnetize the IMSB. Doing this guarantees that any ferrous debris inside the engine will be sucked into the races of the bearing. This causes certain death.

I have seen this before, and we have to stay join the asses of distributors NOT to ship IMSBs with magnetic drain plugs.

Also, if you magnetize the lifters, they'll suck up debris and the engine will sound like a small diesel.

Magnets that are this powerful have mo place around an engine.

There;s a time when avoiding the issue creates other issues. I'd suck it up and take it apart.

[Bigsmoothlee]

Maybe you can buy a flexible camera probe and see where it is.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Bigsmoothlee

Maybe you can buy a flexible camera probe and see where it is.

It is going to require a very small camera head to get in there, which will be expensive.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by jake raby

i'd suck it up and take it apart.

+1..........

[tonichristi]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

If you get that magnet near the engine you'll magnetize the IMSB. Doing this guarantees that any ferrous debris inside the engine will be sucked into the races of the bearing. This causes certain death.

I have seen this before, and we have to stay join the asses of distributors NOT to ship IMSBs with magnetic drain plugs.

Also, if you magnetize the lifters, they'll suck up debris and the engine will sound like a small diesel.

Magnets that are this powerful have mo place around an engine.

There;s a time when avoiding the issue creates other issues. I'd suck it up and take it apart.

Anyone who's ever played with magnets knows this is complete BS. A magnet will only magnetize a ferrous metal for a limited amount of time.
You can use the damn magnet and just wait a while before you start the engine.
Nothing is going to be permanently magnetized, drama queen. I missed; did you decide to quit posting on rennlist when you saw that no one cared if you stayed or went? What kind of narcissistic person posts something like that in the first place? That was a funny thread! Drama!

[boxster6354]

Been reading, interesting situation.

So I will throw this out for the heck of it.

You are able to get contact to the set screw with a small thin object and touch it, so how about build a cheap electromagnet?

Use some strong insulated wire and at one end attach two wires which go to the +/- of a battery?

Sort of like what we used to do in science class way back when :-)

[BYprodriver]

[QUOTE=tonichristi;432972]Anyone who's ever played with magnets knows this is complete BS. A magnet will only magnetize a ferrous metal for a limited amount of time.
You can use the damn magnet and just wait a while before you start the engine.
Nothing is going to be permanently magnetized, drama queen. I missed; did you decide to quit posting on rennlist when you saw that no one cared if you stayed or went? What kind of narcissistic person posts something like that in the first place? That was a funny thread! Drama![/QUOTE]

This is your current status Newbie! Cease immediately!

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by tonichristi

Anyone who's ever played with magnets knows this is complete BS. A magnet will only magnetize a ferrous metal for a limited amount of time.
You can use the damn magnet and just wait a while before you start the engine.
Nothing is going to be permanently magnetized, drama queen. I missed; did you decide to quit posting on rennlist when you saw that no one cared if you stayed or went? What kind of narcissistic person posts something like that in the first place? That was a funny thread! Drama!

What an absolute and utter *ssclown.

And since I got a chance to check out Tonichriti's page since posting the above obvious, I'll add this............do you ever have anything to say that actually POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTES to the discussion?

The reason I ask is that I went to your profile and looked up your other posts and read them, let's just say I already know the answer to the above question.........what a troll.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

If you get that magnet near the engine you'll magnetize the IMSB. Doing this guarantees that any ferrous debris inside the engine will be sucked into the races of the bearing. This causes certain death.

I have seen this before, and we have to stay join the asses of distributors NOT to ship IMSBs with magnetic drain plugs.

Also, if you magnetize the lifters, they'll suck up debris and the engine will sound like a small diesel.

Magnets that are this powerful have mo place around an engine.

There;s a time when avoiding the issue creates other issues. I'd suck it up and take it apart.

Oh crap. On my last oil change I put in a magnetized drain plug.

Never found any metal in my filters yet though. I'll be putting the original plug back in.

Sorry no help to the op, but Thank You Jake!

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Oh crap. On my last oil change I put in a magnetized drain plug.

Never found any metal in my filters yet though. I'll be putting the original plug back in.

Sorry no help to the op, but Thank You Jake!

KRAM, relax, that is shipping the plug next to the IMSB. Your fine, keep the magnetic drain plug.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

KRAM, relax, that is shipping the plug next to the IMSB. Your fine, keep the magnetic drain plug.

Ok I see, misread what he was saying. He was saying don't ship them together as it will magnetize the IMSB.

Thanks!

[Jake Raby]

When doing a "half shell repair" you must remove the bolts holding the bank 1 exhaust sprocket.This allows you to turn the engine to facilitate bank 2 disassembly without spinning the bank 1 cams. If you lock the cams at TDC 1, then the valves all stay closed enough to clear all the pistons.

You can leave all of bank 1 assembled, even leave the intake manifold in place on that bank.Just remove the spark plugs.

Magnetized engine parts are a big deal. I was referring to shipping mag drain plugs with IMSBs, which is a huge deal.

[Topless]

I am liking the idea of a small vacuum pump and 1/4" vinyl tubing to fish out the set screw. It may require some time and a bit of luck but probably less time than a half-shell dis-assembly.