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Old 01-11-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:59 AM   #2
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So the oil pump is driven by the IMS shaft. How about a small oil passage through the hex key from the oil pump to the interier of the IMS shaft and an open bearing at the other end? Plenty of oil, and might be an easy mod. plus your stealing oil from the best place possible.

A small hole in the oil pump driven gear connecting with a passage through the center of the hex drive key, and another small hole through the IMS end fitting at the bottom of the hex drive hole would do the trick.

Couple that with a creamic bearing for overkill. Voila!
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Now that is something even I would be afraid to try. I am more comfortable with things that can be easily set back to original if things don't work out.
But I am certainly interested in the idea.

Could the oil from the pump be done without removing the IM shaft?
I have been intending to experiment to see if oil in the shaft would affect balance. I would think not, it would just distribute itself evenly inside the shaft I would assume.
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:09 PM   #4
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Now that is something even I would be afraid to try.
I think you could warm up to it. Your posts on bearings shows you are comfortable with new ideas.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:30 PM   #5
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I think you could warm up to it. Your posts on bearings shows you are comfortable with new ideas.
Absolutely. I am anxious to hear more. I am not familiar with the shaft and pump arraignment so it is a little hard for me to understand the details.
I may be a hard sell because right now grease is my first choice. Grease is good. If hope I can make grease a viable lubricant for the IMSB.
When I saw how superior the Nachi seal is to any others, I realized that keeping grease in and oil out may not be impossible.
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:14 PM   #6
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If you look hard enough you'll find that a hex key modified for oiling has already been patented.

On top of that, it doesn't work efficiently, because of how the oil has to pass into it.

One version of the IMS Solution was oiled in this manner. We oiled the OEM bearing in this manner during testing way back in 2007, but once the issue was conclusively determined NOT to be lubrication, we tabled it. Thats been the case with many more time than people know about.

On top of that, if you want to create a stress riser that will waken the oil pump drive, just EDM or bore a hole through it. They break without any help, in stock form.
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If you look hard enough you'll find that a hex key modified for oiling has already been patented.

On top of that, it doesn't work efficiently, because of how the oil has to pass into it.

One version of the IMS Solution was oiled in this manner. We oiled the OEM bearing in this manner during testing way back in 2007, but once the issue was conclusively determined NOT to be lubrication, we tabled it. Thats been the case with many more time than people know about.

On top of that, if you want to create a stress riser that will waken the oil pump drive, just EDM or bore a hole through it. They break without any help, in stock form.
Wow - I'm catching up! It was a good thought though, good enough to patent! Additionally, stay away from EDM for all the hype, it's not what it's cracked up to be. I can see this would be a bust for a plain bearing, but for a ceramic ball it seems the problem would be too much oil! Now if we could just get some unobtainium for the oil pump drive hex...

On to more pressing matters, any idea why a motor with fuel and spark won't run? What would you run down first? I'm draining thee old fuel, it did hit a few times but wouldn't catch.

Ok - I'm done hijacking this thread.
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