07-25-2013, 10:42 AM
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6 Speed Conversion.
I am going to be swapping in a 6 speed. The 3.4 in my car should work well with it. I am going to be pulling my tranny tonight to just get the ball rolling. The new tranny will be here next week and I am sure I am going to have a long list of parts for my dealer. Pics to come. Let me know if you want any specific pics while I'm in there.
P.S. I'm hoping there is no play in my dual row IMS bearing. I want to leave the stocker in. Knock on wood.
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07-25-2013, 11:20 AM
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Most guys love the 3.4 with a 5 speed. What's driving your decision to go with a 6 speed?
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07-25-2013, 11:22 AM
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um.. have you actually spoken to someone who has physically done this?
The parts list is very deep to pull this off *without* custom built axles.
I'm going to test you here:
List off the parts needed for the clutch
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07-25-2013, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Roberts
um.. have you actually spoken to someone who has physically done this?
The parts list is very deep to pull this off *without* custom built axles.
I'm going to test you here:
List off the parts needed for the clutch
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Second this.
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07-25-2013, 11:40 AM
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I have done several.
The 987 cars are MUCH easier. The 986? not so much.
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07-25-2013, 11:42 AM
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and the part I *needed* to change? required a custom piece to work in the 986 non-s
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07-25-2013, 11:42 AM
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Don't scare me here. My one question is, why do I need custom built axles?
Parts list.
All S parts.
throw out bearing and tube
Clutch kit
flywheel
I have the updated lever already
slave cylinder
new flywheel bolts
don't care about exhaust hanger stuff - easy enough to fabricate
I was going 6 speed because this is the second 5 speed that I've had that now rattles and moans while rolling in first and second gear. Am I missing something here? Brad you probably have the most knowledge - why do I keep having all these 5 speed tranny issues. Right now i'm on a cayman 5 speed. I dont miss shifts or grind gears and am running royal purple. It works perfect but is just noisy as hell. I may pull it tonight just to re install it if I find something that is rattling or loose.
Any info that i may not be aware of please help me out. I can cancel my tranny order if you give me good reason.
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07-25-2013, 11:41 AM
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I asked the clutch question because I made a huge MISTAKE that cost us a top 10 finish at Daytona. I will never forget *exactly* what clutch parts need to be changed out!!
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07-25-2013, 11:43 AM
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Does it have the light flywheel in it now?
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07-25-2013, 11:45 AM
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Nope stocker for a 5 speed cayman
What was the one piece?
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07-25-2013, 11:46 AM
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Solid is in there now with 2 piece flywheel
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07-25-2013, 11:47 AM
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shift cables and clips are different, transmission mounting brackets are different, and the 6 speed is longer than the 5-speed so your current axles won't work. you can get the longer 6-speed axles, but then I think you need s or 996 wheel carriers as well. or custom axles. good opportunity to upgrade to 996 brakes. I could be wrong of course.
Last edited by The Radium King; 07-25-2013 at 11:48 AM.
Reason: beaten by the faster typing of mr roberts.
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07-25-2013, 11:47 AM
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The BoxsterS axles are completely different from the nonS axles (length/width)
Plus.. the S axles do not pass through the nonS upright correctly.
The S runs a wider wheel bearing than the nonS so the stub axles (that don't come off) are longer for the wider wheel bearing in the S upright.
That is just the *tip* of the iceberg
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07-25-2013, 11:49 AM
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So, 5 speed axles won't mount up your saying? I understand all the S axle issues. If the 5 speed axles don't mount up, I have to make a $2k phone call right now 
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07-25-2013, 11:52 AM
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The 5 speed axles wont work at all.
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07-25-2013, 11:54 AM
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Jaay?
The real solution here? CaymanS 6 speed. It's identical in shape/size to the 5 speed.
and.. want to be really sneaky? Find the 987 BoxsterS 6 speed. It has lower ratio's than the CaymanS 6 speed.
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07-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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Cancelled. HOLY ****************!!!!!!! that was close. I owe you all a beer and dinner and lunch and a stay at my vacations homes.
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07-25-2013, 11:59 AM
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You have the right idea, but the shear number of parts to do it correctly? Is enormous. 
Do like we do and look for a BoxsterS with a popped motor for 5k.
You get:
3rd radiator
GT3 size water lines front to rear
6 speed
Bigger brakes
Bigger wheel bearings
Bigger CV's/Axles
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07-25-2013, 12:03 PM
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What do you think could possibly be rattling in my tranny at idle, out of gear foot off the clutch. When rolling in 1st and 2nd foot on the clutch there is a whining whiring noise but not if in fifth and rolling. It shifts perfect, the clutch grabs hard and the gear oil I just pulled out look great minus a tiny bit of metal shaving.
Flywheel shot?
Disc Shot?
Throw out bearing?
It has been ratting for over a year now and the rolling noises are now new.
Again thank you soooooooooooooooo. Much for saving my ass on this one.
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07-25-2013, 12:08 PM
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Little secret?
Run thicker gear lube.
I have several 5 speeds apart right now. The biggest issue we see is the two T60 torx screw back out and need to be checked for torque.
If they come loose, it effect the 3-4 upshift (the most)
well beside the fact we are ripping the teeth off of 3rd gear and wiping out the 3-4 slider.. LOL
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