Go Back   986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Performance and Technical chat

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-20-2013, 10:37 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
aluminum flywheel/solid disc clutch

So I did my ims bearing, installed my aasco flywheel, installed the new ud pulley, replaced all the idler pulleys, replaced the belt, installed a new water pump, installed a new 160° thermostat, powder coated my calipers, reglued the top to the frame, cleaned out the intake, etc etc etc.

All done while waiting for my new double sprung spec stage 1 clutch to show up so I could put it back together. It finally did today. It was ordered on the 5th.

Who cares about the wait!! Who cares that the tracking doesn't show it leaving their warehouse until the freaking 13th!! Today was the day the car starts getting put back together!!!!

Open the clutch and its a solid disc. Go back and check the description and sure as crap, it goes on and on about how double sprung it is and the benefits of being double sprung, etc. I verify all the part numbers, yep... good to go.

So this car should have been on the road a week ago. I'm supposed to drive it to Vegas the first week of April. Hotels have been bought and promises have been made. I don't know what to do.

Advice?
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 12:14 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: toi ko biet
Posts: 10
Thanks you up top giúp b?n
vnzvnnsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 03:51 AM   #3
I am my own mechanic....
 
Timco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by vnzvnnsz View Post
Thanks you up top giúp b?n
This is solid advise. I'll second this.
__________________
'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
'08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
'13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
Timco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 03:55 AM   #4
Rennzenn
 
j.fro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,355
Garage
Was your clutch from Spec? Same thing happened to me - ordered sprung, but solid showed up. And, they had to get the solid back before they'd send me the sprung one. UGH!
j.fro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 04:04 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Frederick MD
Posts: 658
Find an alternate vendor and have what you need 2 day aired. Send the incorrect part back to original vendor for refund. Do it now or Vegas is a no go...
shadrach74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by vnzvnnsz View Post
Thanks you up top giúp b?n
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timco View Post
This is solid advise. I'll second this.
Thanks guys! I hadn't considered this... its always good to get a second opinion on things.
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 11:52 AM   #7
Certified Boxster Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadrach74 View Post
Find an alternate vendor and have what you need 2 day aired. Send the incorrect part back to original vendor for refund. Do it now or Vegas is a no go...
+1 Order it today and you could have it tomorrow or Saturday with one day shipping.
__________________
1999 996 C2 - sold - bought back - sold for more
1997 Spec Boxster BSR #254
1979 911 SC
POC Licensed DE/TT Instructor
thstone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 12:02 PM   #8
Homeboy981
 
Homeboy981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 663
Garage
I just got a Sachs 4 spring clutch kit with unique housing, throw out bearing and spacers - ALL for ONLY $357!!!!

It was shipped out late Monday and it arrived at my door today.

It looks GENUINE! Now it someone can tell me the where the spacers go and which orientation the throw out bearing goes in….I would be great! Maybe I can find some instructions online.

Get the deal while they last!

Here's the link:

Brand New Genuine ZF Sachs Clutch Kit for Porsche Boxster S | eBay

Enjoy!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxtser S - Silver & Chrome - Died from IMS failure AFTER IMS was replaced!
Homeboy981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 12:54 PM   #9
Homeboy981
 
Homeboy981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 663
Garage
Does NOT FIT! Company looking into replacement OR they at least offer return shipping!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxtser S - Silver & Chrome - Died from IMS failure AFTER IMS was replaced!
Homeboy981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 02:33 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.fro View Post
Was your clutch from Spec? Same thing happened to me - ordered sprung, but solid showed up. And, they had to get the solid back before they'd send me the sprung one. UGH!
This is exactly my situation. The description clearly states sprung clutch. When I ordered it, they looked at my application and just assumed that I really wanted a solid disc per the OEM. So, after waiting a month, that's what I got. Solid disc. They have said I could send it back and they would send me a sprung hub. Problem is I don't have another month to wait. The solid disc is going in and I'll just replace the disc with a sprung disc when I have more time. We'll see how that works out... I don't plan on missing my trip, giving up all my deposits, and very likely parking the car for the entire summer waiting on a ********************ing clutch disc to show up.
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 02:39 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeboy981 View Post
Does NOT FIT! Company looking into replacement OR they at least offer return shipping!
Wow, who would have thought buying a clutch would turn into such an ordeal. Lol. Of course, we could always just drop the $1000 on a clutch that some people charge and hope they get it right.

At this point, I'm starting to get a little jealous of the $27 Honda guys pay for their clutch discs... I wonder if theres a custom fabrication opportunity there... a Porsche spline center hung on a sprung hub clutch that doesn't have the obscene prices associated with the Porsche name.
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 05:23 PM   #12
Homeboy981
 
Homeboy981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 663
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by sam c. View Post
This is exactly my situation. The description clearly states sprung clutch. When I ordered it, they looked at my application and just assumed that I really wanted a solid disc per the OEM. So, after waiting a month, that's what I got. Solid disc. They have said I could send it back and they would send me a sprung hub. Problem is I don't have another month to wait. The solid disc is going in and I'll just replace the disc with a sprung disc when I have more time. We'll see how that works out... I don't plan on missing my trip, giving up all my deposits, and very likely parking the car for the entire summer waiting on a ********************ing clutch disc to show up.
Here's the deal directly from Sachs…..

they have this clutch kit in a sprung version it is kit# K70290-01 - it showed up WITH SPRINGS but spindle was wrong size, flywheel was wrong bolt pattern, Throw Out Bearing was HUGE! Definitely not a fit. I am talking to their "product specialists" tomorrow in the AM about it. Would be good to have several members remind them they are or will be losing money IF they do not get it right! I'm sure they will. They have at least matched the picture! now if we can only get the parts that fit.

The Sachs toll free number is: 800-321-0784 and tell them the make and model, or give them this number and ask to speak to a specialist.

See Ya!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxtser S - Silver & Chrome - Died from IMS failure AFTER IMS was replaced!
Homeboy981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 05:26 PM   #13
Homeboy981
 
Homeboy981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 663
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeboy981 View Post
Here's the deal directly from Sachs…..

they have this clutch kit in a sprung version it is kit# K70290-01 - it showed up WITH SPRINGS but spindle was wrong size, flywheel was wrong bolt pattern, Throw Out Bearing was HUGE! Definitely not a fit. I am talking to their "product specialists" tomorrow in the AM about it. Would be good to have several members remind them they are or will be losing money IF they do not get it right! I'm sure they will. They have at least matched the picture! now if we can only get the parts that fit.

The Sachs toll free number is: 800-321-0784 and tell them the make and model, or give them this number and ask to speak to a specialist.

See Ya!
They are sending: TYP GMFZ 225 (printed on clutch housing)
The OLD Type is: TYP MF228 / MF240

They start at 8:00 AM CST, so the more that call in about this - the better! Especially if you want a 4 Spring Clutch….in the RIGHT SIZE! Looks good in the picture though - at least we're making progress!

Thanks!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxtser S - Silver & Chrome - Died from IMS failure AFTER IMS was replaced!
Homeboy981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2013, 06:07 AM   #14
Homeboy981
 
Homeboy981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 663
Garage
No Joy! Sachs DOES NOT offer a sprung clutch!

The reseller got the "right" part number but Sachs put the wrong clutch in the box. The pictures are NOT what Sachs ACTUALLY produces.

Sachs only offers an unsprung clutch as a replacement, except in their sport division (twice the price).

Just thought I would set the record straight.

Sorry for the false alarm!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxtser S - Silver & Chrome - Died from IMS failure AFTER IMS was replaced!
Homeboy981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2013, 07:19 AM   #15
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.fro View Post
Was your clutch from Spec? Same thing happened to me - ordered sprung, but solid showed up. And, they had to get the solid back before they'd send me the sprung one. UGH!
As J points out, Spec will produce a sprung disc. You just have to be sure to specify that's what you want. Even though their description clearly states it's a sprung disc and even though the vender's description very likely says the exact same thing, you will get a solid disc. The problem is when you order it, you have to specify your type of vehicle. Everyone will look at that order and assume you want a solid disc just like OEM calls for. All that business about double hung spring blah blah blah that they make such a huge deal about in the their descriptions and close up pictures etc goes right out the window the second you tell them you drive a Box. You have to deliberately go through the hoops to make sure everyone in the supply chain knows that you want a sprung disc. If you don't, you'll be stuck waiting for your disc, realize its wrong when it gets there, make a bunch of calls and get all pissed off, mail the disc back, and then have to wait again while they modify it and send it back to you. It sucks.

Last edited by sam c.; 03-22-2013 at 07:24 AM.
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2013, 07:29 AM   #16
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: idaho falls
Posts: 257
On the plus side, though my vendor and/or spec dropped the ball on shipping, the price was decent ($425) and they were all really awesome about the wanting to help correct the situation. The problem on my end was just timing but honestly, I'll probably give them another shot when I pull the solid disc back out next winter to swap in a sprung disc. Spec also offers an aluminum pressure plate that I might just try out too.

Last edited by sam c.; 03-22-2013 at 07:33 AM.
sam c. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2013, 05:55 PM   #17
Rennzenn
 
j.fro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,355
Garage
I think you hit the nail on the head in your description of the "process" at Spec!
j.fro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page