05-16-2012, 08:23 AM
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New Neighbor Said: "You're killing your engine"...thoughts?
I recently moved to southern california (woodland hills) and had to stop at my neighbors house when i saw he was cleaning his 996. Beautiful car...pristine.
We started into the typical "Porsche talk" and he asked what kind of engine oil i put in my car('97 2.5, 105k mi)...he said "its 0-40, right?" I said "no, i just changed the oil and put in mobil 1 10-40, high mileage". He then proceeded to tell me that, not only was i robbing myself of horsepower (not a big deal to me...not at price of longevity), but i was going to eventually make it seize as the viscosity is too thick.
Sounds a bit extreme to me. I would think that 10 weight oil, being a little thicker, would give better protection and stick to gears longer...and i know a few of you are using it. Am i wrong? I'd hate to have to change my oil again, as i did it yesterday, but if i need to, i will.
Please, any thoughts?
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05-16-2012, 08:58 AM
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I'm not an oil expert, but i use 0w in the winter, 5w in summer from reading this forum. A lot of people seem to have moved away from mobile 1 as well, but I still use it.
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05-16-2012, 09:31 AM
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Sounds a bit extreme. Lots of people have lots of opinions about oil. Just because a guy spent more $$ on his car doesn't mean he knows stuff.
My take: Use a full synthetic oil and change it every 4-5K miles. Any quality oil between 0-40 to 10-50 will not destroy your car.
My personal choice- Castrol Syntec 5w40
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05-16-2012, 09:31 AM
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Once your engine is fully warmed up (180+) you're both running 40 weight oil so unless Hi-mileage is not full synthetic there is no horsepower difference & your neighbor is not a oil expert either. Search this forum for oil info.
Whats the best bar in Pismo Beach?
Last edited by BYprodriver; 05-16-2012 at 09:33 AM.
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05-16-2012, 09:33 AM
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Ex Esso kid
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Does not go below zero in "Woodland hills, so you're fine with the weight you chose. Some even suggest the change you made is actually better for the M96, I can't see it being an issue.
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05-16-2012, 10:05 AM
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Since your in California and does not reach sub-freezing temp. its okay to use 10W, 15W or 20W oil weight. ![Wink](http://www.986forum.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif) I use Castrol 10W40.
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05-16-2012, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anti-bling
I recently moved to southern california (woodland hills) and had to stop at my neighbors house when i saw he was cleaning his 996. Beautiful car...pristine.
We started into the typical "Porsche talk" and he asked what kind of engine oil i put in my car('97 2.5, 105k mi)...he said "its 0-40, right?" I said "no, i just changed the oil and put in mobil 1 10-40, high mileage". He then proceeded to tell me that, not only was i robbing myself of horsepower (not a big deal to me...not at price of longevity), but i was going to eventually make it seize as the viscosity is too thick.
Sounds a bit extreme to me. I would think that 10 weight oil, being a little thicker, would give better protection and stick to gears longer...and i know a few of you are using it. Am i wrong? I'd hate to have to change my oil again, as i did it yesterday, but if i need to, i will.
Please, any thoughts?
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If there is anything "too thick" here, it is your neighbor........................
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05-16-2012, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfp in pa
if there is anything "too thick" here, it is your neighbor........................
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lol ![Smilie](http://www.986forum.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif) Very funny
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05-16-2012, 10:59 AM
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Ex Esso kid
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If there is anything "too thick" here, it is your neighbor........................
And his font of course
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05-16-2012, 11:30 AM
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10w-40 is the perfect oil weight for the temperature ranges here in LA. You will definitely not destroy your engine.
Mobil 1 High Mileage has a more extensive anti-wear and seal conditioning package than regular Mobil 1.
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05-16-2012, 11:54 AM
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the first number is cold weight, the second weight at temperature. colder regions require a lighter cold weight so that the oil has adequate fluidity during a cold start. once to temp all else is equal. in warm temperatures the cold weight is really moot, except - ask your neighbour if he worries about his chain tensioner paddles at all; with that runny oil of his all the oil runs back down to the bottom of the engine so on a cold start the chain is flapping against a dry paddle - does he see a lot of green black chunks of plastic in his oil filter?
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05-16-2012, 12:30 PM
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Thats the same oil I use... The oil galleys in the M96 engine are huge and will probably flow almost anything.
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05-16-2012, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anti-bling
but i was going to eventually make it seize as the viscosity is too thick.
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You only gonna seize the engine if you ran out of oil in the crankcase, just like what happened to my co-workers sister 80's Supra the engine is so seized the crankshaft wont rotate using a breaker bar.
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05-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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10-40 is a great weight for your climate, especially summer time. As a matter of fact, I feel that using 0w or even 5w would be too thin. Down here in Texas, with hot ass temperatures of 93F+ a day and three months straight of 100F+ we have Porsche enthusiasts that use 15w-20w-40-50. I personally use 10w-40 high mileage in my car, and have never had a problem. Was actually looking to see if I could find me some 15w-50.
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05-16-2012, 01:23 PM
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Location: pismo beach, ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
If there is anything "too thick" here, it is your neighbor........................
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.....hahahhahahahahahahahaha
Thanks all! You guys rock
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05-16-2012, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
If there is anything "too thick" here, it is your neighbor........................
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He might think you're complementing his.... never mind...
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05-16-2012, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BYprodriver
Whats the best bar in Pismo Beach?
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I live 15 minutes from Pismo, Harry's is a fun bar and it's close to the beach.
http://www.qualitysites.com/Harrys/
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05-17-2012, 05:42 AM
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05-17-2012, 07:54 AM
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I always just BYOB to the dunes when I used to live up that way
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05-17-2012, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Boxster
10-40 is a great weight for your climate, especially summer time. As a matter of fact, I feel that using 0w or even 5w would be too thin. Down here in Texas, with hot ass temperatures of 93F+ a day and three months straight of 100F+ we have Porsche enthusiasts that use 15w-20w-40-50. I personally use 10w-40 high mileage in my car, and have never had a problem. Was actually looking to see if I could find me some 15w-50.
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I run either 15W-50 in the winter and 20W-50 in the summer.
Mike
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