KSport Coilovers: All About 'Em

[RandallNeighbour]

Gary, I'm on the horn with them (on hold, of course) right now.

I'm asking how much 7 kg rear springs cost and how to install the helper springs on the rear, etc.

This is what Kevin (Insite) told me to buy on the phone just now when we spoke.

I'll post the info here when I find this out

[stephen wilson]

Those thin tender springs don't add anything to the effective spring rate, and will be compressed flat at ride height. They just keep the main spring from rattling and coming off of the perch when the suspension is fully extended.
Steve

[j.fro]

Hey Insite, the shocks you showed in the photo are the ones I've got for my car. They are threaded above the collar, but not below it. The collars are fixed solid as a rock.

[insite]

Originally Posted by stephen wilson

Those thin HELPER springs don't add anything to the effective spring rate, and will be compressed flat at ride height. They just keep the main spring from rattling and coming off of the perch when the suspension is fully extended.
Steve

i figured they were TENDER rather than HELPER springs. randall - when you talk to ksport, maybe ask about this. TENDER springs will aid in high frequency bump damping; the HELPERS are good for exactly what stephen said.


EDIT: reversed tender / helper to reflect proper nomenclature.

[RandallNeighbour]

They are tenders, not helpers.

The Ksport guy sold me 7 kg springs for the back to replace the 10's. The fronts are 5.5... according to him.

There is evidently no separate ride height adjustment for the coilovers designed for our cars.

I am still completely lost on how to set them up as the instructions are total crap. Kevin, please document the install with LOTS of photos.

[insite]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

They are tenders, not helpers.

The Ksport guy sold me 7 kg springs for the back to replace the 10's. The fronts are 5.5... according to him.

There is evidently no separate ride height adjustment for the coilovers designed for our cars.

I am still completely lost on how to set them up as the instructions are total crap. Kevin, please document the install with LOTS of photos.

randall - can you measure the inner diameter of your springs? i think i'll buy some helper springs ahead of time so i can install w/ my setup. don't worry; i'll take a lot of photos.

[RandallNeighbour]

Kevin, we're expecting a storm here in Houston today and both my employees asked if we could work out of the house today... which translates to the wife and golden retriever went on a weather-related strike.

So, I am at home and the coilovers are at my office. I will probably drive over some time this morning and I'll measure them for you.

I'm also going to take pix of the tops of the units so I can do before and after mods you recommended and show you my work so you can OK it before I give them to my mechanic.

[insite]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Kevin, we're expecting a storm here in Houston today and both my employees asked if we could work out of the house today... which translates to the wife and golden retriever went on a weather-related strike.

So, I am at home and the coilovers are at my office. I will probably drive over some time this morning and I'll measure them for you.

I'm also going to take pix of the tops of the units so I can do before and after mods you recommended and show you my work so you can OK it before I give them to my mechanic.

sounds good. the easiest way to measure the inner diameter of the springs will be to measure the OUTER diameter of the tender spring spacers. they will either be 2.25", 2.50", or metric.

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by insite

randall - can you measure the inner diameter of your springs? i think i'll buy some helper springs ahead of time so i can install w/ my setup. don't worry; i'll take a lot of photos.

The helper springs have an inside diameter of 63mm or 2.5 inches. The outside diameter is 83mm or 3.25 inches.

Overall height is 56mm or 2 3/8 inches sans the separator ring

[RandallNeighbour]

Kevin, it's time to pry more knowledge out of your head about these coilovers. I know this will take some time, but if you can answer my questions once here with these pics, you will not be badgered by other forum members in the future

Here we go.

In this first photo, we see all the tools and bushings sent with the coilovers. Please explain what each of them do, how they're used, why I have six of one tool, two of another, only six rubber bushings, do the bushings go on the fronts or the rears, do the bushings go between the tops of the strut mounting plate and body or under then nut inside the trunk area, etc. There were ZERO instructions on this in the box.




In this second photo, we have a shot of the back strut. Please explain which direction I should move the strut... toward A or B? One other question... is the B side the outside or the inside?




In this last photo, we have a shot of the front strut. This one will be more complicated to explain, but I have questions as well. Is the A or B side the outside? Do I loosen the bolts and move the strut toward A or B? Where should the bolts C or D reside when they're in the right place?



I've barely got enough cash scraped together to get them installed right the first time, so I don't want to be forced to remove them for any reason to fix something I didn't get right. What I will do is to do the setup mods you mentioned earlier after a response and photograph them and post pics of the mod for your approval if that's ok with you.