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Ben006 11-05-2018 12:17 PM

I'm still playing with the fix for the shifter side/side play. Actually, I'm trying to print something accurate enough to be a perfect fit washer with a tiny bit of grinding ;)
Once done, I'll make sur you get one !

I completely redesigned my shifter v3.1... It's now 3.1.2 ahah
https://i53.servimg.com/u/f53/13/27/76/86/assemb11.jpg
Looks better, cheaper, and stronger...


I also want to thank one more time all the people that bought one of my shifter or just talked about them and participated/helped on this thread !
I made and sold more than 200 shifters since I started, it allowed me to learn a lot, to meet a lot of people, and to fund a lot of other projects.

Now I'm on my way to turn what was once a hobby into a living in the next few years, and it all started on this thread !

I guess that's what we call the american dream ? Because that would have not been possible over here in France !


Thanks...
Ben.

Gelbster 11-05-2018 01:42 PM

Congratulations Ben ! Very gracious of you to acknowledge the benefits of being a (legal) immigrant to America ( me too).
you wrote: "I guess that's what we call the American dream ? Because that would have not been possible over here in France !" Just be careful to whisper that quietly since you are still en France :-).
I have one of your early version originals and it works very well. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to get your 3.1.2 and compare.
Bon Chance mon ami.

robdelorenzo 11-06-2018 04:20 AM

Congrats!
I would like to buy a new version when they are ready.
Please let me know when.
Rob

Troy.Boxster 11-11-2018 06:33 AM

Just installed the short shifter today and it feels great! Nice work Ben! But my right shift cable ball socket looked extremely worn and I'm going buy a replacement because I'm worried that the original will pop off at any moment. It also looked like it was rubbing on the inside of the shifter housing - probably when moving in and out of reverse. Has anyone else noticed the ball socket wearing out? Perhaps my shifter just had a lot of side-to-side play which led to it rubbing.

Ben006 11-12-2018 11:36 AM

Thank you guys for the kind words :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelbster (Post 582411)
"I guess that's what we call the American dream ? Because that would have not been possible over here in France !" Just be careful to whisper that quietly since you are still en France :-).

Ah ah, don't worry, everyone over here is well aware of our situation ! It's very very hard to start something. I couldn't have start here, both in terms of my job as a Porsche Tech, and the parts I make !

Speaking of parts, I have a new one coming soon ;)
A plug and play catch can !

Gelbster 11-12-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 582985)
Thank you guys for the kind words :)
Speaking of parts, I have a new one coming soon ;)
A plug and play catch can !

Ben be careful IF you mean a replacement AOS ??? Some have tried, all have failed. One guy actually took money from Forum members and then disappeared ! Even Raby conceded that his solution was too expensive to be a viable product.
Don't let this be your Waterloo. Oops, bad pun.

Ben006 11-12-2018 12:23 PM

I remember that member yes !
No my plan is not to remove the AOS. :)
It will be an addition between the AOS and Intake, as free flowing as possible to avoid any perturbation. Just a catch can to collect the oil before it enters the intake. Nothing highly complicated !

-A small aluminum catch can, sealed, that can be opened and cleaned, no bronze filter or a million baffles, just a simple screen to limit the airflow restriction while still catching the oil.
-1 meter of high quality, made-to-my-spec hose.
-And factory style fittings with thermoplastic clamps.

I agree, replacing the complete AOS system is too complicated / expensive to be sold to 986 /996 owners.

Gelbster 11-12-2018 12:37 PM

Ben,
Suggest you start a new thread for your Catch Can because I sense that you and I will be chattering about this for a while !
The small catch can idea is excellent imho. It may solve the oil ingestion issue in 'spirited' driving. But let's be clear it is unknown(??) if it will postpone diaphragm rupture -which is the eventual cause of classic AOS failure.
There is a very nice little (too small??)catch can called "Jaz" -Jaz Products 605-375-01
https://www.amazon.com/Jaz-Products-605-375-01-Mini-Breather-Fittings/dp/B002RLCPEE. I used them with reasonable results
I have also used previous versions of this on s/c Jaguar engines. Some -ve comments about the new one -mainly lack of install instructions.
https://www.mcnallyelectronics.com/Gen-2-Oil-Catch-Can-Kit-by-McNally-_p_76.html
I have also used a modified BMW X5 CCV can. Easy to locate because it is small diameter but long- less than $10 off fleabay, looks stock but is plastic. The BMW part # is : 11151705237
More here:
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=527417
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Pressure-Regulating-Valve-Engine-Oil-Separator-Fit-BMW-E53-X5-11151705237/281577540268?fits=Make%3ABMW&epid=28017541473&hash =item418f544aac:g:7xwAAOSwPIhaCxye:rk:2:pf:0
But I know you can do better ! Sign me up :-)

jaykay 11-12-2018 01:22 PM

IIRC you need the stock AOS in place to maintain crank case pressure as it should be.......and that the low tension piston ring design design is quite sensitive to changes in crank case pressures.

Perhaps one of our engine specialists can confirm this....

Gelbster 11-12-2018 01:38 PM

That is correct . But we are not changing pressure, just coalescing oil vapour on a screen.This is achieved by cooling and changes in the velocity of vapour flow .

maytag 11-12-2018 01:38 PM

Ah, Ben! That was MY idea! Haha. I've been planning something along these lines as part of my winter project.

Having purchased and installed some of your other products, I'm perfectly happy to let you go figure it all out and then pay you for it, haha.

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Ben006 11-13-2018 11:00 AM

Yes, the membrane on the stock AOS maintains between 3 and 7 inches of water column vacuum in the crankcase.

That's why I'm focusing on the catch can not being a restriction rather than being the best at collecting oil !

I'll open a new thread soon :)

Thanks maytag ;)
I hope to release it soon !

Boxstard 11-19-2018 04:28 PM

Back to the shifter topic, I refurbished the leather shift boot and while I was there added a thicker washer at the pivot shaft. It was very tight fit and I was afraid that it may add drag but the lever action was virtually not affected. Still excessive side-to-side play, so I added plastic sheet between moving white plastic lever and black cage to fill the gap, and it did cut down the play by half! Now side play and longitudinal play are about the same and balanced. Also I got a 917-style custom wood shifter with alum tube over the lever and I set it taller than stock and I'm liking force/ stroke balance. I have not missed a shift and appreciate precise feel, even though I do not think my shift is any faster than before:eek:

Ben006 12-24-2018 09:39 AM

Hi guys !

I finally found the time to install the prototype for the L shaped lever !

It works great !
I'll drive it for a while to verify that the concept works, then the final product will be made out of aluminum with a removable insert to suit the shifter's side ball.

Here is the before/after video : https://youtu.be/qrJdOKEiz-o

The first part of the video shows that a lot of side-to-side movement is lost in play in the L shaped lever. Second part of the video shows the prototype installed, and all the side-to-side movement being transmitted to the shift cable !


Ben.

tommy583 12-24-2018 12:04 PM

Looks Great Ben. I have one of your shifters and have found after a couple years I have side to side play I can't rid of. Looking forward to getting this new part. Put me on the list for one when you start making them.

maytag 12-24-2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 586014)
Looks Great Ben. I have one of your shifters and have found after a couple years I have side to side play I can't rid of. Looking forward to getting this new part. Put me on the list for one when you start making them.

Plus one! Put me on the list too!

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grc0456 12-24-2018 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 586014)
Looks Great Ben. I have one of your shifters and have found after a couple years I have side to side play I can't rid of. Looking forward to getting this new part. Put me on the list for one when you start making them.



Likewise!


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Troy.Boxster 12-25-2018 02:23 AM

I'm good for one as well!

Ben006 12-26-2018 10:40 AM

I tested it today !
I was late and I completely forgot I installed it... after 5min of driving I said to myself "Hey, the gearbox feels really nice, what's going on" (I said it in French right :D )

So yes, I'm pretty happy with the prototype so far ! My gearbox is still a bit worn, but the 2/3 shift is way better, the lever is planted in front of the correct row, and you can't miss it !
Just like the short shifter, it made a great difference, immediatly noticeable !


Ben

BruceH 12-26-2018 11:31 AM

Glad to hear about going from 2nd to 3rd. I frequently miss with your current version. I thought maybe it was just me. So I would be interested in an updated version as well. Still love the shifter though. Keep up the good work :cheers:

dsallean 12-27-2018 06:50 AM

I have the current version, which is much improved over my stock shifter. But interested in the updated version as well.

square-root 12-30-2018 12:41 AM

If the new L-shaped lever will fit the 997 shifter then I am interested in buying it, too!

rfuerst911sc 12-30-2018 03:16 AM

Ben I have your short shifter but haven't installed it yet . Would make sense to do it all at the same time . Any idea when production units will be available for sale ? Maybe a group buy to get the ball rolling ?

Ben006 12-30-2018 10:46 AM

You can install your short shifter and retrofit the lever later, they are two separate parts so you don’t have to get both ;)
I’d say, get a feel for the shifter before, then install the lever after and enjoy even more !
I’ll get the production started without problem... the only problem is that I’ll have 200 of them ahah !

Thanks guys!
Ben.

maytag 12-30-2018 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 586505)
... the only problem is that I’ll have 200 of them ahah !

Well that's really only 197.... 'cuz at least 3 of us below are ready to send you cash TODAY! Hahaha

Thanks for doing the work, Ben!

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rfuerst911sc 12-31-2018 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 586505)
You can install your short shifter and retrofit the lever later, they are two separate parts so you don’t have to get both ;)
I’d say, get a feel for the shifter before, then install the lever after and enjoy even more !
I’ll get the production started without problem... the only problem is that I’ll have 200 of them ahah !

Thanks guys!
Ben.

Does the console have to be removed to add the improved lever ? I am trying to avoid removing the console multiple times if possible .

PaulE 12-31-2018 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 586550)
Does the console have to be removed to add the improved lever ? I am trying to avoid removing the console multiple times if possible .

I think it does, but I'm not 100% certain. I looks like the short shift lever will also have to come out to get the blue ball ended shaft out of the old white block, unbolt that piece and bolt the new piece in! When I did mine, I bought a spare shifter from Woody and put the short shifter together on that so it was already to go before I took the console out. This time I'll need to take it all apart to get this piece in.

tommy583 01-02-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 586550)
Does the console have to be removed to add the improved lever ? I am trying to avoid removing the console multiple times if possible .

Yes the console will definitely have to come out.

steved0x 01-02-2019 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maytag (Post 586543)
Well that's really only 197.... 'cuz at least 3 of us below are ready to send you cash TODAY! Hahaha

Thanks for doing the work, Ben!

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196 because I want one too.

Ben006 01-02-2019 11:11 AM

Yep, console is removed, you need to have access to the cables and pry out the plastic shaft that holds it on the side.

I have a few things to finnish, then I'll start the production of the levers !
I'm confident that you are going to love it !
Now it's just a matter of making the last adjustments (an error on 200 pieces can be an expensive error...).

Also, I should be fitting the carbon fiber plenum this Saturday ! I'm pretty excited for that too !



Ben

Emerald 02-02-2019 08:11 AM

Newbie and short shifter
 
Hey guys. Just bought 2002 booster s with 82k miles. Has no history records but runs well. Have to push clutch all the way to floor otherwise gears will grind if not super careful. Going to do 4th gear at 30mph test and bleed hydraulics. Would like short shifter and after quick check as a new member not sure of the best way of getting and putting one in? I’m sure this has been gone over many times so pardon my short cut to your valued advice. Thank

Gelbster 02-02-2019 08:39 AM

You are in the wrong Thread for gearbox problems?
Suggest some more research into the gearbox issues.
It would help if you indicated 5 speed or 6 speed ?
Inspect the Slave cyl?
If 6 speed - what is the 1-2 change like when cold ?

Ben006 02-02-2019 08:41 AM

Sounds like your clutch is not disengaging all the way. As you said, try with a bleeding first !

For the short shifter, I just sent 12 to Uniwerks design, so he has some in stock :)

https://uniwerksdesign.com/product/bens-porsche-996-986-short-shifter/

rfuerst911sc 02-09-2019 02:19 PM

Any update on the improved side lever ?

jaykay 02-10-2019 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 586505)
You can install your short shifter and retrofit the lever later, they are two separate parts so you don’t have to get both ;)
I’d say, get a feel for the shifter before, then install the lever after and enjoy even more !
I’ll get the production started without problem... the only problem is that I’ll have 200 of them ahah !

Thanks guys!
Ben.

Ben can you give us some information on the new lever? Is it less of a short shifter, more mechanical advantage? What Porsche lever distances did you model it from? Would I be able to retro fit my B+M lever or Porsche SSK; put into the B+M metal frame? Will it only fit into your ball bearing shifter frame?

What is the nature of the L-shape? Which way is it bent? I find the 9X6 cars have the lever moving way to close to the console in the rear gate gears. My elbow hits the console....hand is crammed

shockandawe 02-11-2019 05:15 AM

I would like the new lever also.

shockandawe 02-11-2019 05:17 AM

Lever
 
Me to I’m good for one

Ben006 02-12-2019 11:37 AM

The new L lever will be out soon ! I received the last quotes to make it !

It will fit any short shifter that previously fit the stock L lever.

It will be an alunimum lever, with replaceable delrin inserts. I'm probably include two in the kit.
Ball bearings, and a steel shaft, though, that's still to be tested !

It won't shorten the side-to-side throw as Porsche got at least that right the first time ^^

It'll be a great improvement over stock ! I'm still running the prototype everyday !

I had to take a Cayman Cup for a ride last week, fitted with a Porsche cup shifter... And frankly, I like my setup better !

I know I tease you guys a lot, and you've already been waiting for a while now, but the end of the tunnel is near ;)

Ben

square-root 02-13-2019 05:21 AM

If it will fit the 997 stock shifter then sign me up for the L-lever!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 588967)
The new L lever will be out soon ! I received the last quotes to make it !

It will fit any short shifter that previously fit the stock L lever.

It will be an alunimum lever, with replaceable delrin inserts. I'm probably include two in the kit.
Ball bearings, and a steel shaft, though, that's still to be tested !

It won't shorten the side-to-side throw as Porsche got at least that right the first time ^^

It'll be a great improvement over stock ! I'm still running the prototype everyday !

I had to take a Cayman Cup for a ride last week, fitted with a Porsche cup shifter... And frankly, I like my setup better !

I know I tease you guys a lot, and you've already been waiting for a while now, but the end of the tunnel is near ;)

Ben


shockandawe 02-13-2019 05:42 AM

I’m ready for one ☝️.


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