Aren't you done yet? What's the holdup?

:p :D

Ha Ha Mr. Particlewave. I'm trying to decide if i should buff the outer light lens before or after I put them in the oven. What do you think? There is just a tiny bit of hazing on one of the lights. I was wondering if baking the light with the haze still on it will make it harder to get off.

No worries ;)
Baking at the temps we are using won't make the hazing any better or worse.

So...are you done yet? :p

Guys, can you use Plastx to remove a light scratch on the inside of the lens? I have a small "smear" of light scratches on the inside.

Cheers

Hubert, you certainly can however not recommended. If you go ahead think about surgically clean microfiber cloth when doing so. There are no scratch (& UV) protective film on the inside part of the lens therefore any hard-dust on your cloth will make it worst (scratch the lens).

Polishing (finishing) will need to be done using a "camera lens polishing cloth'. Doable but again, got to be done in a very clean environment.

Hi Fred,
Apologies if this has been asked already but this is a long thread.
Do you do a RH drive version? our beam patterns are opposite. Also how much do you charge for shipment to the UK? Fantastic product by the way, we are chatting about it on Boxa.net too.
Thanks
Richard

Hi Richard

Yes absolutely, those are available in both LHD and RHD model. The RHD projector kit is all the very same with the exception of the small cutoff plate inside the projector. The RHD beam's lift is simply projected on the right hand side. Satisfies the authorities/inspections and doesn't blind the opposite traffic.

When ever you are ready just let me know (and yes, apologies, a very long thread indeed). Any specific questions feel free to shoot me a PM anytime mate or simply post here, no worries there.

The total damage on the kit does include shipping cost to the UK. Using the top service here..."EMS Express Post" w/ tracking & insurance. Shanghai to Paris in 4 days, Shanghai to USA in less than a week.... I'm being told similar timeframe to the UK.

Need 4 (four) days to custom made a complete kit. You are looking at receiving them 10-12 days after payment.

Link me RE the Boxa.net if you think I need to get updates passed on there as well. Unless you are happy to pass the note then by all means.... tia!

Thanks for the tip,,,The dreaded happened to me,,I thought that the headlights where adjusted properly. This was sadly not the case (by a very small margin!)

The projector scratched the inner lens!:mad:

So, I am looking to see if somebody that is an expert in headlight restoration can remove the scratches. The scratches are fairly deep and won't just buf out with scratchX.

That's a bummer. Sorry to hear about your trouble man.

regardless on how severe the scratch is, the only way I see one of those lens coming back close to original is under-water polishing, or micro filling (vacuum?). An eyewear professional locally or the-like will be able to advise on the correct procedures I'm certain. Just pray one is not too busy and happy to take your lens job quickly.

My dad had an old collection Pentax (glass) lens restored from the dead once and it came out 98% almost perfect. He sent it to one of those guys in the trade, and got it back polished the following day. I'm only hoping there must be similar ways to restore a poly lens

keep us updated

Is the parking light still functional after installing the projector? Even if the reflector bowl is painted black?

Otherwise I might use the wire for another purpose.

Yes. The PL bulb, location, circuit... all remains the same and functional (as stock).

Although with the reflector painted black, it still gives this nice glare of light behind the projector. Fancy looking indeed.

What other purpose? you got me curious! Any great ideas/innovations must be shared Norm ;)

No great innovations, Fred, just still trying to find a way to make all functions work including the infamous required-here DRL.

If the high beam power supply is used for flashing, with either halogen or LED, does the resulting short on/offs of power to the cutoff shield solenoid create a problem?

Otherwise I was thinking of maybe using the park light wire to separately activate the flash of the bulb in the high beam position. However, I just checked the wire size of the park light and see it's only half the size of the low, high and fogs, so maybe not an option after all.

This question is to all of you folks that have done Fred's projector install and left your original high beam functional.

I think that the best route if you want to maintain high beam flashing capability is to leave at least the lower half of the reflector chrome and use the standard halogen high beam bulb on a relay so that the halogen bulb is only used when headlights are off (for flashing).

I would think that the angel eyes would suffice for DRLs...?

Fred didn't think so. Therefore I didn't buy them...

RE Angel Eyes;

I know for a fact that those new high performance bi-xenon projectors meets vehicle safety inspections requirement in terms of aiming, screen distance and marking id. However nothing have yet convinced me (officially) that "angel eyes", the-aftermarket-ones, are meeting vehicle safety laws when it comes to DRLs.

I am simply unable to confirm that those angel eyes, as stunning and functional as they are, complies with Canadian (B.C) laws. Only an officer will be able to answer this question. Therefore I couldn't (personally) recommend Norm to use those as a safety feature :/

Mind you, those angel eyes design aren't the super Shinny-Bright-Light things you commonly see on other retrofitted cars. They are embedded into a housing and diffused out from 32 little 2*4mm holes. Extremely nice looking and soft lighting... show car effects only, no no DRLs!

(I could be wrong. Different countries, different laws I guess)

Converting some amber headlights ;)
As can be seen, blacked out with projectors negates the need for de-ambering. Darn sexy, IMO :cool:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...00000000C0.jpg

De-amber what? These are hot!

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...00000000C3.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...00000000C2.jpg


And finally, here is a side by side before and after shot of halogen vs HID ;)

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...00000000C1.jpg

Those look like mine!
Thanks Particlewave

No problem buddy ;)

I actually had 3 sets in various stages of upgrading that week, including yours. It was a busy week! :eek:
Hope to see pics of them on your car when things warm up!

Hey Particle,

How do you get the corner triangles off?

The little tabs broke off when I tried to remove one.

Worst case scenario is I just have to epoxy the triangle in place without the tabs I suppose.

I also wonder if there is any aligning of the lights necessary after installing the Projectors?

Yes, some alignment will be necessary, but if your lights were aligned properly before the retrofit, it will be minimal.

To remove the corners, carefully pry the clips back just far enough to push the top of the trim piece out until the pins are clear of the headlight housing, then slide down ;)
Unfortunately, the older they are, the more brittle they get. It doesn't hurt to hit the backside clips with a low temp hair dryer or heat gun for 10-15 seconds to make the plastic more pliable.

OK I may be a dim bulb ( pun intended :D ) so bear with me. Basically if you have standard halogen headlights to upgrade you can either purchase OEM Litronic or go aftermarket like these projectors correct ? And the ones in this thread are the same type of bulb ( xenon ) as the Litronics correct ? And the OEM Litronics and this projector style in this thread are for low beam only correct ? Are there clear lenses available that are not Litronic ? I'm trying to get the clear look at the most reasonable price. Car is a 2002 S. Based on this thread and the apparent quality that has gone into these it seems like a no brainer to go with these based on quality/price. What am I missing ? But if I can buy OEM Litronics used that are already in a clear lense for a decent price that may be more cost effective. My heads ready to explode trying to figure out something as simple as headlights !!! :)

Yes, these projectors and litronics both use HID xenon bulbs. Unlike the litronic projectors, these units do function as both high and low beams. They have a cutoff shield that blocks half of the beam until you turn your high beams on, at which point a small solenoid in the projector pulls down the shield to expose the entire beam.

Did you see the pictures on the previous page? I think that even amber headlights look good after retrofitting.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...1DEEE310_1.jpg

I bought a pair of used Clear, Halogens in good shape. One of the corners had broken tabs so I had to epoxy that triangle. I then sold my Amber OEM's to cover more than half of the cost of the Clears. I am still debating this projector DIY.

Here is some links to new halogen clears:
FOR PORSCHE: 98663113114, 986 631 131 14 - READY TO SHIP - (MAGNETI MARELLI HEADLIGHT ASSEMBLY /LEFT, 2003)
Head Light Set - Clear Trim Halogen:Porsche Parts & Porsche Accessories - Wholesale Porsche Parts & Tequipment

Used litronics seem to go for between $1000 and $1500. The cheapest new that I have found are these from EuroMotorspeed:
New 97 04 Porsche Boxster Pair Litronic Headlights | eBay

My plan is/was to get a good set of used litronics and be done or find a either a set of used or new halogens and then convert. Now that I have the clears, I just have to decide whether or not to do the next step. I paid $650 for my used clears, so with this retrofit, I would be right around $1000 total, not bad. Lately, I just have not had the time to do any projects so I have not gotten around to it. I may just have to send them to Particle.

Yes I saw the pics they look very nice. My headlights are somewhat faded I'll have to see how well they clean up and go from there. Thanks

AWESOME look!

Depending on the color of the car, I would say that our amber headlights are sexy and unique looking. Definately NO NEED to de-amber (tail lights are a whole different story ;))

Now, I exactly know, how I want my headlights to look. Just need someone to 3D-print those and get them chromefinished. :D

What do you think?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1393880557.jpg

Has anyone installed these without painting the inside of the housing? I'm thinking of just going w/ Gray projectors without the black paint, as my car is Seal Gray.

Also, what is the weight of each projector? Of the ballast?

thanks.

Wow, this is really, really, nice Charles. Excellent work buddy. Van will be so happy.... and so his boxster!

I agree with you that those amber'ed headlights equipped with those projector looks quite fancy.

Hi Ray, hope all is going fine there for you mate. Sorry to hear about the broken corner.

Re aiming your headlight, have a go at HOW TO: aim HID headlights and look at the various methods the guys use. The common 25' away from wall method is the one I use and recommend (flawless). This is all done using the Porsche headlight adj hex tool - nothing change there

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1393951966.jpg

Those are unpainted (stock) with the same bi-xenon projectors.

Weight is 290 grams for the whole assembly (3/4 pound?) (one side only).

This pic just made my day. I was wondering how I could get these lights with a, still, classic look and I find none painted black, the headlights meet this requirements. Thanks!

I've also just received the materials to experiment with painting the inner shrouds the same color as the car, so I'll post pictures of that when I can. I have another retrofit to do today ;)

Are you are thinking of something in the line of?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1393957902.jpg

Particleweve
I thought about that with mine. Ocean Blue Mati.
Van

Yes! That's hot! Unfortunately, like we discussed, I'm not sure how well the paint will show through the diffused portion of the lens. I will find out soon enough, though...I bought a donor light on eBay to experiment with ;)

I'll try some things and post pictures next week, I hope.

I finished a set for a 996 today ;)

I cannot wait to see pictures of these installed on a 996! :D

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...584D231262.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...70D903FBEB.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...F42DBDDDB0.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...BB8165C375.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...6E4F2A76F6.jpg

I'm not sure...doesn't really flow right to me. It's hard to visualize, though.

Just showing off my devil eyes...ignore the garage mess, please. I just moved into this place a couple days ago ;)

Today I picked up an extra set of OEM headlight housings just for this conversion. They came off a 2001 model and are in better shape than what's on my car :D. And the best part.........$100.00 for the pair !!! Yeah I stole these even tried to talk him down but he wouldn't budge. Now need to save up some cash to get these done.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1394324543.jpg

yeah, it is difficult.
My personal taste is to "Retro" the look of my "classic" Boxster...a Tribute to the old school 550/356/911 look, with decent (not too tacky :rolleyes:) chrome trims/applications...to give it even more soul ;)

Back (installed):
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1394368484.jpg

Side (installed):
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1394368911.jpg
18" silver spokes Fuchsfelgen will follow in spring together with
original Aerokit I side skirts (ready to be installed)

Front: Just need to have something up front to keep the balance (photoshoped)...front lights would look fantastic in seal gray, but with eyeliner ;)
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1394369927.jpg