How does one acquire a set of these for their Box??

The post below shows the wiring. This one shows a full size automotive relay, but the principle and wiring is exactly the same. ;)

Kudos to Particlewave (and Bruce!!). I'm confident ppl who wish to DIY will find this useful.

In a meantime, (Jon & all) I have warmed my wife Helen that I will soon resume my nocturnal working operations at the shop shortly after Chinese New Year (2 weeks from now). Plan is to get a few kits ready before spring. Hopefully I will have regained access to at least one of my two cars by then (wife have been hiding the car keys from me since October).

However, chances that the new crop of projectors comes with angel eyes is very slim. Possibly close to none. However they will remain bi-xenon and be better than before.

Thanks to Kevin, Paul and Rick for the kind words. Sincerely hope you guys are doing great on your sides there. Keep it up!

Charles, the relay you linked to has 5 pins on it, I assume it will be easy to figure it out once they arrive? How are you connecting the wires to the relay? Soldering or a spade connector? Thanks for your help.

I solder the wires on. The relay has 2 pins on one side and 3 on the other. The 2 pins are the coil and are connected to the low beam (red and black, polarity doesn't matter). The 3 pins are the contacts. I'll have to look to see which is which and report back, but you could easily determine that with a multimeter or even a test light.

Ok, thanks

Any chance these are available again?

Hi Josh,

I'm putting the shop back into operation right after Chinese New Year. However it is very unlikely that the new batch will be manufactured to accommodate LED Angel Eyes. If this is okay with you then I think I can slip you in the next batch (got 4 other fellas here waiting, with you 5 if you are in).

Let me know what you need and I'll get those ready for you hopefully before your autumn kicks in.

Why are the angel eyes no longer an option?

Because I'm Out of Stock ;)

Seriously. Those angel eyes have somehow managed to upgrade themselves to a single point of failure (SPOF). In the sense that some fellas 'occasionally' buy these projectors simply because they have angel eyes. That is all fine, nothing wrong there. The problem comes if/when one or more AE fail. The product is therefore discredited. Hence the word 'single' in point of failure. And my responsibility is to quickly eliminate this - if you want to hear the real reason bud.

I already hear you say "but-but-but source better and engineer smarter", which is fair enough, however the truth is whether LED comes from China or Golden Country, kept cooled or not, they remain what they are, a risk. A risk which is not directly linked to the core functionality of the kit.

I'd like to focus on what these kits really are (i.e. the original concept) which was: "A quick and affordable way to modernize the look of your Porsche Boxster (or 911) while providing better light distribution over stock halogen". That is exactly what started the idea and I desperately want to go back to it. Hell, you even get a fully personalized laser script in the package lolll

Beside simplify the design, next step really is to find effective ways to make them available to everyone. To the guys with and without DIY experience. Whether this involve getting a custom BOSCH headlight-housing harness professionally designed, HD video productions of installation procedures, or both, this is what I'll need to work hard on instead. Not wasting any more time to find creative ways to make them look cool'er.

They are already super duper cool!

I agree with axing the angel eyes.

The bottom line is that things fail and Fred has no control over manufacturers quality control, nor the running conditions that buyers of the kit put them through. They look cool, but have the potential to put a blemish on these beautiful projectors and Fred's hard work.

It might be nice to retain the ae machined holes in the bezels.....if desired. Beautiful cooling vents...

That's what I figured when I got the LED's. I figured if they died, I still like the look of the holes :cheers:

Yes I agree love the look of the holes with or without the angel eyes :eek:

Looks great unlit:D

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And of course lit :cool:

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I'm actually kind of excited these may be available without the angel eyes. Fred, if not a hassle, can I see a mock up of what your newer Vivo style would look like without the angel eye holes?

I'm most interested in a silver, which would pay homeage to the period-correct, factory litronic highly reflective chrome finished look. (Maybe polished aluminum with clear anodize on all the visible pieces, if you can do that?)

(Really beautiful design and machine work, by the way!)

Follow-up question: do BruceH's and CraigM's projectors have a silver rear sleeve, or black?

Bloody hell, those are seriously nice pics. Hope you don't mind me saving those in my Best Pics folder

Thanks Captain, sincerely grateful for those :cheers:


Jake, not a hassle at all bud. I'll get those rendered and published here for us to see and judge what's the best way forward. The VIVO will look amazing without the holes, kinda tactical looking (i.e. serious look).

Let's see, give me a few days for those to come out

Mine is the stock silver, no black.

No problem Fred, it is your outstanding work! :cheers:

Unfortunately my X5 blew up on the way home from my fathers 60th so looks like my car budget is spoken for, for the next little while.

Crap, sorry to hear bud. Hope it can all be fixed. You know where to find us if there is anything we can help with. RE headlights, chances they'll still be available on your father's 70th so no worries on that.

Happy Birthday to dad :cheers:

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Cool - thanks Fred!

Thanks Bruce! Yours is really helpful for me because it basically demonstrates the highly reflective, litronic-like look I'd like to get, and it's also a lapis blue Boxster, like my '01. :D. So to also get this look, I think I'm also going to get those base pieces in silver. :)

It's also helpful to visualize what look I'd get if I deambered. So far I'm leaning towards taking my Boxster-fried eggs with a little yolk... maybe leaving the amber full-blown in the lower area of the headlights, as homepage to the awesome and timeless original Boxster prototype style, or maybe doing the '03-'04 style (factory litronic style) "small bit of amber behind the clear turn signal" look.

:chicken:

Will do soon. Let me re-design this, cancel all of that useless angel eyes work, and get them back to fail-proof stage II.

I'll need to scrap all of those renderings also LOL (ouch)

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Soooo glad I had you do my lights and I have the relay that turns off the Angel Eye when the Projector is on. You were ahead of the curve on this one, it's been awhile since I had you build them and the Angel Eyes are still working perfect.

Sorry for the delay, Bruce.
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Glad to hear it and nice to see you back around, buddy! :cool:

Thanks Charles, but we are too late. Last night I wanted to show off my LED's and the right headlight LED's have quite a few that are no longer working :( So I guess my next question is how do I just disconnect the LED's? The thing is, I really have not driven at night very much so I thought I would be ok, I guess not. Oh well.

That's too bad. :(

Disconnect the small white connector as seen in this photo.

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Technical question, re: placement and wiring of second bulb after outer lense is removed and my inner burned lense also removed. I see the projector mounted in the top bulb hole, that`s straight forward. My question is what is the preferred method of the lower bulb hole Since the Bi-Zenon does both high and low beam and the inner lense is removed, is the original h7 bulb simply reinserted and connected to seal the assembly and eliminate bulb out dash warning light or is the hole filled with a blank to eliminate glare from h7 bulb. Thanks in advance for any help.

Don't think Boxsters have bulb out warning lights.

You could either connect it as well so that the high beam bulb flashes when your dipped beams aren't on, or install a relay that switches to the bi-xenons when the dipped beams are on, and the separate bulbs when they're not.

I did the latter, but removed the relay afterwards as one of them failed on me - they were cheap Ebay relays mind!

Thanks for the reply. Next question: Do 2.5" or 3" Projectors fit and look better?

I use the 2.5" size lenses for the projectors you see here. Any other sizes would need to be confirmed by your seller. If he can't confirm then its all based on luck bud

@Checkers - I'm (slowly) building a set and have used 2.5" with a standard gatling gun style projector and they required a little bit of trimming to fit, I'd imagine anything bigger would be a tight/difficult fit.

@Nine8Six - have you considered selling the black threaded 'extension' piece at the rear of your projectors as a standalone item? From the image above it looks like a standard Morimoto/Ebay unit could just screw into it, removing the need to dremel so much from the back of the housing to get the retaining nut tightened down?

Fire hazard - warning
 

No man, never! I've seen and heard way too many stories that I am not going to sponsor nor get involved in with other kits than the ones that I personally manufacture in a "full aluminum body". Safe; oxygen burns faster than they is any other material to ignite (Aluminum doesn't burn lolll). DOT approved basically (unofficially).

"Anything Plastics"

Whatever seller, reputation they have.. and yes, including those eBay kits and cool looking others!. Affordable but man, what you are getting yourself involved into is far beyond what I want to participate in. Not only the bezels are made out of flammable composites, the coatings used are solvents and accelerate fire. Same goes for the cheap "optics" that comes with most of those kits bud... coatings catch fire, flames quickly to the bezel and off it goes. Watch out for hot summer days - some melt/deforms and catch fire by touching the xenon (500 degree Celsius that bulb/glass man).

You want me to help you with that?! You can't be serious... really hope you guys know what you are doing there.

I have tons of those pics, sent by friends, some taken from the Chinese forums. Even have some with US state based license plates. Cant believe it came to advertising this on my own bloody thread (I tried to avoid it since day 1 in respect to other sellers) but seeing a trend of cheap plastic kits going on here... I will only feel responsible if I don't warn you guys.

Got about 50+ pics if you need, here goes the first 5, tell me when to stop :mad:


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OUCH! Yikes, that is some scary stuff!!! :eek:

This thing is f n hot. Beyond me that some goes plastic bezels on their beloved Porsche. Couldn't care less about your Honda civic tought, in fact it could be quite cool to see it burn in a downtown somewhere lollll

@oldskool73 - I know I've screwed you up when I crashed my shoulder and couldn't fullfil the order of your projectors. Sorry again man. I just can't let you go that route and to make dead sure you won't, I'll give you the first set that comes out of the next batch for FREE (just pay shipping brother). Wait, return whatever you've ordered man

(sorry for the rant btw, had to be done)

Class act Fred :cheers:

Wow, amazing offer there @Nine8Six, I'd be crazy not to take you up on it.

Won't be able to return what I bought as I've already chopped into the shrouds to make them fit, but that's life.

Guess my project's on hold again for a while... Let me know when you're ready to roll again then. Thanks!

Nine8Six, when do you anticipate the next batch being ready? They look so beautiful!

So let's do that then! On record! I'll have a few kits ready by spring but yours are getting out of here before any others. I'll see if I can quickly anodize a kit right after I'm done with a few things here, no promises yet - give me 2~3 weeks :cheers:

Sorry to hear about your other kit bro, make a crocodile night-hunting xenon flashlight with it, dunno