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particlewave 10-21-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Van914 (Post 513820)
Particlewave does a great job. He converted mine and did some repairs.
Great job, communication and well worth the money.
Much easier than DIY
Thanks Charles

Van

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 513835)
Charles is the man. If he is offering his services to do the retrofits DO NOT hesitate taking him up on the offer. He is the absolute expert on this procedure.

Thanks guys! :)

I'm taking a little break right now, but you never know... ;)

PaulE 10-30-2016 03:01 PM

A few additional notes to the instructions
 
If you're doing the headlight conversion for the first time, here are a few things I learned yesterday that I'd like to pass along. Please correct me if I've got any of this wrong.

The 3 white retainers on the side that help hold the weatherstripping in place do not come off. They just raise a small amount and then you remove the weatherstripping by gently stretching it around the round, white head, sort of like unbuttoning a shirt. When you read the instructions, you see the headlight unit with the weatherstripping off and the 3 white things still on the headlight, but I thought this might be helpful to know.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1477867955.jpg

There seem to be two ways that the clips of the corner pieces are attached to the headlight units and my car had one of each. On one type, the corner piece clip attaches directly to ears on the units, like this:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1477868230.jpg

On the other type, the ears on the underside of the headlight unit are ground off, there is a special separate black bracket that goes in their place:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1477868342.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1477868370.jpg

If you have the type with the extra black piece, they are much easier to remove without breaking a clip. I got that side off without a problem, and 2 clips broke on the other side.

I hope everyone is getting their kits, and that these notes are helpful!

oldskool73 10-30-2016 05:57 PM

@PaulE : The white 'buttons' on the side do come out (maybe don't 'need' to but I did), get something under them pry and they should pop out easily, just have little 3 little leg pins holding them in there.

Not seen the corners with the extra retainer, that seems like a much better idea! If you have the old type, heating the legs up with a heat gun or hairdryer for a few seconds first will help them flex a bit and make them less likely to snap off... wish I thought of that that the first time I tried!

oldskool73 10-30-2016 07:29 PM

Anyone heard anything from Nine8Six or GTCollection in a while? I purchased a set 3 weeks ago and the payment was processed by Paypal but I've had no follow up about shipping or anything since, and no response to emails sent to the GTCollection customer service address either. Also Fred's not posted in here for almost 2 months, little worried he's gone missing again...

PaulE 10-31-2016 10:08 AM

Thanks oldskool73. I didn't know how hard to pry under those white things. After breaking 2 of 3 clips on one corner, and seeing I could get the weatherstrip off with them just slightly raised, I chose that route!

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool73 (Post 515017)
@PaulE : The white 'buttons' on the side do come out (maybe don't 'need' to but I did), get something under them pry and they should pop out easily, just have little 3 little leg pins holding them in there.

Not seen the corners with the extra retainer, that seems like a much better idea! If you have the old type, heating the legs up with a heat gun or hairdryer for a few seconds first will help them flex a bit and make them less likely to snap off... wish I thought of that that the first time I tried!


RedBeauty 11-10-2016 07:43 AM

Hello! i have recived and installed the projectors. looks great!

Now i just have to do the final adjustments with leveling. I have allready used them alitlebit, and run it with fog + angeleyes at daytime.

my question: is it possible to Connect hi beam to lo beam? so that when i run park lights (angel eyes) and flash hi beam the lights (ballast) become activated? have painted what i'm thinking in, inside the Orange circle.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1478796128.jpg

particlewave 11-10-2016 10:44 AM

See my posts here: http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/64266-dipped-lights-come-full-beam.html#post516133

geraintthomas 11-13-2016 03:14 PM

That wouldn't work as it would also activate the full beam solenoid in the bi-xenon lens whenever you wanted dipped beams :) particlewave's post on my thread is how you do it!

oldskool73 11-17-2016 06:49 AM

Just a PSA for anyone thinking of buying these.

At the moment Nine8Six (aka Fred, the board member who sells them) seems to be missing. I paid for a set 6 weeks ago now via the GTCollection website and have heard nothing since, had no replies to my support emails, and most importantly... got no lights.

At the moment I'd have to suggest you hold off purchasing anything from the GTCollection site as it doesn't seem like it's manned at all (although it will still charge you at checkout) and orders are not being fulfilled.

PaulE 11-17-2016 10:39 AM

oldskool73 a couple pages back in this thread a little over a month ago Nine8Six talked about his internet issues in China. I'm guessing that even though he said they got a SAT phone they still have issues, because he hasn't posted anything on this forum since then. I hope Nine8Six is ok and that everyone gets their lights. Having gotten mine, I can say they were worth the wait! (although I barely got to use them before the electrical switch portion of my ignition lock crapped out and I need to fix that so I can fully enjoy them!

Nine8Six 11-17-2016 10:44 PM

Wrong timimng :/
 
Helen and I have been back from Singapore since a week now... where I was initially hospitalized for nearly 3 weeks and stranded for 2 more for doctor/hospital visits.

For those of you guys who aren't aware, I had a pretty nasty high-side at about 120kph. A high-side is when the non-rear-happy race bike spit you up 2 meter above your confortable seat. I only remember flying like a kite and have no recollection of touching down... which is a good thing... a few doctors commented.

For all we know, I woke up 3 days post accident in the Shanghai Huashan hospital ICU to be air transferred to SG General on the fourth day as per med insurance request. Very pleasant, and so is the feeling of 6 broken bones scattered in my upper left arm, back ribs and shoulder.

I still have a persistent headache and neck pain but this seems to be improving every week.

Good news is I am recovering quite fast and well, no permanent damage caused(they say loll) and should be fit for office work in mid December. The bad news; my superbike MOTOGP 'wannabe' carreer is over. Little over 20+years of SBK racing TERMINATED.

Special thanks to the BUPA (medical insurance company) for caring for me in a very important way. Those of you into extreame/dangerous sports, those are the guys to go with. I am not sure how much in total but someone told me around US$60k for the package (incl a minor surgery in the shoulder).

I'll be back full throttle in a month, less the racing bit :/

Lots of catch-up to do. Missed you all

Smallblock454 11-18-2016 03:43 AM

Get well soon!

Regards, Markus

BFeller 11-18-2016 05:28 AM

I wish you well and hope the recovery continues smoothly.

PaulE 11-18-2016 05:30 AM

Wow, glad you are going to be OK! I have been to the hospital twice from road bicycle crashes, I can't imagine a motorcycle crash. PS, my headlights are done and they are amazing. Thanks Fred!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1479479395.jpg

BruceH 11-18-2016 07:07 AM

Get well soon Fred! Sorry to hear but glad you are on the road to recovery :cheers:

Dubaday 11-18-2016 07:46 AM

Get well soon Fred!

Van914 11-19-2016 04:40 AM

Fred,
Get well soon!

Troy.Boxster 11-22-2016 09:55 PM

Wow, glad you are on the mend! Healing wishes sent your way.
-Troy

jcslocum 11-23-2016 03:59 AM

Fred, The highside really does suck! I have been there too without the serious injury to my old body. Get well soonest!

Arte you still accepting order for this kit??

jb92563 11-23-2016 06:57 AM

We were hoping that you didn't visit Thailand again on your vacation due to last times unfortunate incident but hearing that you took up flying with your motorcycle is a nightmare.

Hope you heal up quick and well from your accident.

However, I see racing the Boxster in your future now :D
Surely it wont be long until you've figured out what else you can race.
If racing is in your blood it will be impossible to not find that alternative adrenaline rush.

hglaser 11-23-2016 03:03 PM

Best Wishes!
 
Fred,

So sorry to hear of your mishap. We all wish you a speedy recovery!

Kind regards,

Alex

mavis.d 11-25-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hglaser (Post 517523)
Fred,

So sorry to hear of your mishap. We all wish you a speedy recovery!

Kind regards,

Alex

+1

Get well soon Fred

tonichristi 11-27-2016 08:13 AM

You sure do have some bad luck. Has a bull been through here recently?

JayG 11-27-2016 09:02 AM

Wow Fred!

You have had a sucky year. First Thailand and now this

Glad to hear you are not too badly injured

Best wishes for a speedy recovery

batshapedheart 11-30-2016 10:49 AM

Get well Soon!
 
Get well soon Fred!

RedBeauty 01-07-2017 02:20 PM

Some bad News on my projector. Sometime in november one of the angel eyes stopped working. they had only been in the car for about 1,5 months so i feel this was a little short time for those expensive projectors to work.

I have checked and double checked the Connections and that's not the problem.

is there a way to solve this?

I realy liked the angel eye, and that was the biggest reason for me to buy the projectors and give the car the extra awsome look.

I have tryed to PM Fred, but for obvious reasons not gotten any answer. Hopes he get's well soon!
The problem is that the car needs to og to the annual vehicle inspection here in Norway, this month! and the original parking lights wich i'm now using doesn't light bright enough because i've painted the lens black.

Nine8Six 01-07-2017 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBeauty (Post 521920)

I have checked and double checked the Connections and that's not the problem.

is there a way to solve this?

Try to rule out the small LED ballast that connect to the parking light by swapping it with the one/side that works. Would be nice if it would only be that. Few failed but we just never know. If indeed the angel eye themselves, I am happy to send you out a replacement bezel assembly if you intent to replace the faulty side one day.

RE inspection. Crazy stuff, sorry to hear your pain there. Idea; can you satisfy your officer by installing a high power 12Vdc LED bulb (temporarily)? I see a 15~30min easy job if you can get the bulb locally.

Mine are also painted black and I am getting plenty of reflection coming out of the stock parking light bulb. I don't have angel eyes in mine so I just kept the oem bulb in there.

Any colors; as long as the surface is smooth, reflection will occur.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011388848550.jpg

Nine8Six 01-07-2017 09:56 PM

@Smallblock454
@BFeller
@PaulE
@BruceH
@Dubaday
@Van914
@Troy
@jcslocum
@jb92563
@hglaser
@mavis.d
@tonichristi
@JayG
@batshapedheart

THANK you for the wishes. You guys are awesome. All getting back in place, I think, slowly, but surely. Persistent headache is gone.... not missing that part. Or perhaps as my wife said "maybe you got used to it" LOL

Drove the Boxster last week only. Fell like I've never driven a Porsche car before. Weird feeling

PaulE 01-08-2017 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 521963)
@Smallblock454
@BFeller
@PaulE
@BruceH
@Dubaday
@Van914
@Troy
@jcslocum
@jb92563
@hglaser
@mavis.d
@tonichristi
@JayG
@batshapedheart

THANK you for the wishes. You guys are awesome. All getting back in place, I think, slowly, but surely. Persistent headache is gone.... not missing that part. Or perhaps as my wife said "maybe you got used to it" LOL

Drove the Boxster last week only. Fell like I've never driven a Porsche car before. Weird feeling

Welcome back Fred! Glad you are on the mend! Hope you are 100% soon!

kjc2050 01-08-2017 04:28 PM

Fred,

Sorry, I haven't checked this thread in a while and was unaware of your accident. Hope you are back to 100% as soon as possible! We all really appreciate everything you've done for the community! Take care and get healthy!!

RedBeauty 01-14-2017 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 521962)
Try to rule out the small LED ballast that connect to the parking light by swapping it with the one/side that works. Would be nice if it would only be that. Few failed but we just never know. If indeed the angel eye themselves, I am happy to send you out a replacement bezel assembly if you intent to replace the faulty side one day.

RE inspection. Crazy stuff, sorry to hear your pain there. Idea; can you satisfy your officer by installing a high power 12Vdc LED bulb (temporarily)? I see a 15~30min easy job if you can get the bulb locally.

Mine are also painted black and I am getting plenty of reflection coming out of the stock parking light bulb. I don't have angel eyes in mine so I just kept the oem bulb in there.

Any colors; as long as the surface is smooth, reflection will occur.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011388848550.jpg

I tryed to swap the led ballast today. Unfortunateley that did'nt work and now the other side shows the same symphtoms of failing. some of the led's does'nt light up or light as Bright as it should. Again i also checked all the Connections!


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1484408812.jpg

particlewave 01-14-2017 07:23 AM

That's a failing LED. Nothing you can do except replace the projector bezel.

As I've said before, they need to be on a relay so that they are off when the HIDs are on. You can't have the HIDs and LED angel eyes on at the same time or this will happen sooner or later.
Heat + LED in operation = premature failure.

BruceH 01-14-2017 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 522658)
That's a failing LED. Nothing you can do except replace the projector bezel.

As I've said before, they need to be on a relay so that they are off when the HIDs are on. You can't have the HIDs and LED angel eyes on at the same time or this will happen sooner or later.
Heat + LED in operation = premature failure.

Charles, for the electrically challenged (me :eek:) can you tell me the exact relay needed? Thanks!

RedBeauty 01-15-2017 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 522658)
That's a failing LED. Nothing you can do except replace the projector bezel.

As I've said before, they need to be on a relay so that they are off when the HIDs are on. You can't have the HIDs and LED angel eyes on at the same time or this will happen sooner or later.
Heat + LED in operation = premature failure.

Ok. New info for me. I gues as an idea it maybe would be nice to sell the projector set's with this relay in the future ? (where is the relay mounted?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 521962)
Try to rule out the small LED ballast that connect to the parking light by swapping it with the one/side that works. Would be nice if it would only be that. Few failed but we just never know. If indeed the angel eye themselves, I am happy to send you out a replacement bezel assembly if you intent to replace the faulty side one day.

If you would be so kind to send me the replacement parts Fred, I'll be wery greatfull! (both sides failed). I realy liked the look's of it and meanwhile i'll try to get the car trough inspections with brighter park lightbulbs, I'll cross my fingers but they can realy be a PIA!


Meanwhile here is a picture of how beauty the car is with red on red projectors :)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1484485286.jpg

Nine8Six 01-15-2017 05:01 AM

^ Nice car!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBeauty (Post 522773)
Ok. New info for me. I gues as an idea it maybe would be nice to sell the projector set's with this relay in the future ? (where is the relay mounted?)

What would be nice (smart?) would be to have them simplified so they become and remain what they truly are "Car headlights with improved light distribution".

I personally don't think the plan will be to include relay harnesses, 1kg of additional wires, and enforcing ppl to do endless connections, adding tapes & soldering, what else fellas really need...

I'll revise the design shortly to make them as I always dreamed of having them. And that is: Elegant, functional, with improved light output. That's it!!! Connect the two little wires to the 12VDC and off you go. Fail-proof. The only maintenance required is to change the Xenon bulbs ($10) every two years (if you like fresh!) and that-is-it.

Sadly this vision of a perfect product does not include angel eyes, LED, additional ballasts to have them light up + all the required backend-electro-copper-can-only-go-wrong-advantages stuff.

They'll be simplified instead - cheaper also (effective today)

rfuerst911sc 01-15-2017 06:21 AM

I had a funny feeling when I ordered mine that the angel eyes option was going to be finicky . Like Fred my vision was just to have the projector lights and that's it . In my opinion mine look great , work great and are simple in design. No slight intended to those that went with angel eyes but the KISS principle is a good one in this application . Just my 2 cents.
Fred keep healing and moving forward . :cheers:

particlewave 01-15-2017 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 522709)
Charles, for the electrically challenged (me :eek:) can you tell me the exact relay needed? Thanks!

Hi Bruce. I use these: uxcell 5pcs Blue PCB Mount DC 12V SPDT 5 Pin Mini Power Relay JQC-3F(T73) | eBay
Unfortunately, I didn't start adding these until after I did yours (it's standard practice now). I'll see if I can dig up wiring instructions, too. ;)



Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBeauty (Post 522773)
I gues as an idea it maybe would be nice to sell the projector set's with this relay in the future ?

:D :D :D Hahahahahaha! :D :D :D
What else you want with that? :p

RedBeauty 01-15-2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 522800)

:D :D :D Hahahahahaha! :D :D :D
What else you want with that? :p

I have no idea how mouch exstra it wold be to make it work. I just expected the projector led's to work allitlebit longer than 6 weeks. For me it was more about design than having better light. Mine was quite bright and good with no burnt lenses.

particlewave 01-15-2017 10:19 AM

If you want it to work correctly and pass inspection, you will also need a relay to switch between halogen and HID high beams as you cannot flash HIDs from an off state (daytime high beam flashing).

My point was/is that this kit that Fred offers is just that: a kit. It requires professional installation to ensure everything is done correctly and meets minimum local law requirements. Order some standard relays for the high beam functionality and some of the smaller relays that I posted above for the AEs so that this doesn't happen again. ;)

BruceH 01-15-2017 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 522800)
Hi Bruce. I use these: uxcell 5pcs Blue PCB Mount DC 12V SPDT 5 Pin Mini Power Relay JQC-3F(T73) | eBay
Unfortunately, I didn't start adding these until after I did yours (it's standard practice now). I'll see if I can dig up wiring instructions, too. ;)

Thanks Charles, I'm looking forward to the instructions :cheers:


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