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Coaster 06-03-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 403834)
Easy to do but then how many would do this to their beloved $2k litronics kit!

Ummm, so you're saying drop in replacement that can be undone? Ok I'm officially saving up for my kit. I'll have to look into the painting options.

BruceH 06-03-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 403834)
Easy to do but then how many would do this to their beloved $2k litronics kit!

Sorry, but I think you are selling yourself short! Your kit is pretty amazing looking:cheers:

jaykay 06-03-2014 08:44 PM

Hmmm so all the factory levelling (sensors and projector movement for cars with the factory installed Litronics) will still be in play but one now has a more powerful projector in there...okay now we are talking.

Now can we get the high beam circuit running the same projector with high beam intensity.... and clear out the halogen? Would the stock movement of the projectors upwards screw up the high beam effect?

Do the above and blackout the reflectors?

Davev 06-04-2014 06:32 AM

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jaykay 06-04-2014 07:04 AM

Take me to your leader....awesome! Is this what I think it is?

Davev 06-04-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 403938)
Take me to your leader....awesome! Is this what I think it is?

These are the lights from this thread. Just installed in the 986 last night. Projectors by Nine8Six/Assembled by particlewave.

Pdwight 06-04-2014 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 403938)
Take me to your leader....awesome! Is this what I think it is?

Agreed, this looks great

jaykay 06-04-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Davev (Post 403959)
These are the lights from this thread. Just installed in the 986 last night. Projectors by Nine8Six/Assembled by particlewave.

Did you have factory Litronics? Did you retain all the auto levelling and aiming wizardry by simply swapping the projector?

What is your high beam and low beam like?

It looks like you have driving lights as well?

Davev 06-04-2014 09:59 AM

I did not have Litronics nor leveling. I was looking to upgrade to Litronics but choose this. I know this is a long thread but there is a lot of info contained that I would defer to.
The lights are awesome --as are most all HID lights I have ever had. Running lights are the HALO LED's.

Me likey. But I am not the expert. Check user "particlewave"

particlewave 06-04-2014 10:05 AM

Looking great Dave! I think the look is very stock, yet better than any stock option ;)
Very nice look with your car color :cool:

particlewave 06-04-2014 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 403860)
Hmmm so all the factory levelling (sensors and projector movement for cars with the factory installed Litronics) will still be in play but one now has a more powerful projector in there...okay now we are talking.

Now can we get the high beam circuit running the same projector with high beam intensity.... and clear out the halogen? Would the stock movement of the projectors upwards screw up the high beam effect?

Do the above and blackout the reflectors?

To my knowledge, no one has attempted this with Lits yet. What Fred is referring to, I believe, is using all of the stock equipment with his bezel/shroud via an adapter plate, hence all of the stock lighting and leveling remains and only the look changes.

Very do-able ;)

Coaster 06-04-2014 11:08 AM

My lits have an inner clear cover
 
Appears my Lits have a second clear cover over the HID bulb. I wonder if it would interfere with the retrofit?
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5037/...764af890_m.jpg

Davev 06-04-2014 11:14 AM

Thanks for putting the projectors in the lights for me. I would have buggered it up- or worse yet (and most likely) never gotten around to finishing. I think the choice to go 'no paint' was the right one for my car color. <non biased opinion mode off>

Crono0001 06-04-2014 02:30 PM

I still need to get particlewave to retrofit my LED custom headlights to use these awesome projectors.

I'll be seeing my car again on the 15th. Since the car is sitting in a shop and won't need any headlights, I'll probably extract them for particlewave.

rfuerst911sc 06-08-2014 11:54 AM

OK guys another mini update :D . Just received an email from the vendor he has conducted pull tests ( didn't know this was needed ) on the satoprene and he's very happy with the results. Apparently next he's going to try silicone. Then the next will be a harder material, this harder material would drastically reduce the tooling costs. So this R&D is moving forward and he believes by late next week he " may " decide the material he is going to move forward with. I'm quite excited by the progress to date but looking forward to having some prototypes in my hands !

Pdwight 06-08-2014 12:07 PM

Eagerly awaiting results :-)

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 403858)
Sorry, but I think you are selling yourself short! Your kit is pretty amazing looking:cheers:

My selling skills are practically non-existent Bruce :/ Working on that lol

Thanks for the compliment anyway!!!

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davev (Post 403982)
I did not have Litronics nor leveling. I was looking to upgrade to Litronics but choose this. I know this is a long thread but there is a lot of info contained that I would defer to.
The lights are awesome --as are most all HID lights I have ever had. Running lights are the HALO LED's.

Me likey. But I am not the expert. Check user "particlewave"

Nicely done. Yep that style works for me too... car looks so much younger.

Glad to hear you are happy with how the kit performs Dave. Thanks for that note mate. Anything you need from Shanghai beach you know where to find me (Charles got my mobby in case its urgent :cheers: )

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coaster (Post 404003)
Appears my Lits have a second clear cover over the HID bulb. I wonder if it would interfere with the retrofit?

The covers would need to go.

Coaster, Jaykay

I see both of you wants to retrofit Litronics. My advice on that subject is this. Many values the litronic as they are, factory, Porsche brand, DOT approved, whatever reasons. They are not bad lighting at all. If your plans are to go for full bi-xenon + CGT style front-end, the best would be to sell your Litronic to a member here and buy a NEW set of halogen to retrofit. You'll break even $-wise I'm sure, and someone will be pleased to have your Litronic I guarantee. Everybody's happy

If it would be me, that's what I would do anyway. Besides, no serious R&D nor design have been carried on Litronic headlights as yet :/

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 404690)
OK guys another mini update :D . Just received an email from the vendor he has conducted pull tests ( didn't know this was needed ) on the satoprene and he's very happy with the results. Apparently next he's going to try silicone. Then the next will be a harder material, this harder material would drastically reduce the tooling costs. So this R&D is moving forward and he believes by late next week he " may " decide the material he is going to move forward with. I'm quite excited by the progress to date but looking forward to having some prototypes in my hands !

Thanks for the update!

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 04:03 AM

(< Bruce, Dave, Coaster, JayKay, some comments left for you on previous page.)

New Projectors Styles - The new family!

This thread and the support from members of 986forum have given me invaluable inspiration throughout the life and development of this projector. The interest, the demand, satisfaction and enthusiasms, have made me realized that there were a demand to bring this product to its next level. So.... I did!

Most importantly and before going any further, I would like to thanks everyone who have shown interest in the kit and to those who've purchased it from Charles or myself (very special thanks to you). Without all of you guys, 986forum, this would NOT have been possible. So thanks x100 again, I'll forever be grateful to all of you here :)

Once a personal idea meant to mimic the front-end of a half-million dollar car, some could now call it The Ultimate Halogen-to-HID headlight retrofit kit for sport & super cars series. While keeping up to the theme of this thread, i.e. sharing, and without any further due (apologies to those who've been waiting), here goes some previews of what I am rumbling about.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011402315390.jpg

The final High Performance Bi-Xenon Projector Series (2014 models lol).

All of the models are sharing the same dotted angel eyes concept and most technical features and performance identical to the classic CGT style projector. With few cosmetic exceptions and design revisions however:

1. The lens is now secured with a retaining ring. Machined in house and made of POM material (Delrin)
2. Angel eyes now mounted on the lens' retaining ring
3. The LED diffuser are also machined in-house using clear PMMA (Acrylic, frosted filter effect)
4. 15% weight reduction using thin wall thickness machining techniques, and less filling chemicals. Total assembly now only weight total 338 grams
5. Transient thermal analysis simulation, R&D and tests have been carried. Thermal management vs material properties (AE hotspots avoidance, heat dissipation tests)
6. And finally, each design have been given a name

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/021402315046.jpg


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^ Although the kit remains fully customizable (anodizing colors, laser script, etc), that is how they are going to be branded and laser-scripted by default. The Gunmetal is also the default color. Less the chemical green LEDs of course ;)

ps. this green is what I prefer using for 3D renderings!

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 04:05 AM

Some (real) photos of the Luminoso Series projector, angel eyes reflections. In Gunmetal gray

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011402315831.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/021402315841.jpg

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Nine8Six 06-09-2014 04:18 AM

Vivo Series with pics
 
And those are the Vivo Series. Compact, can be adapted to any cars

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011402316238.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/021402316249.jpg

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Enjoy!

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 04:29 AM

Advertisement preps & specs
 
Lot's of work ahead. Website + Visuals detailing each of the products.

Let you guys know when its finalized. In a meantime, feel free to contact me if you are interested in buying a kit for your Porsche car. They cost $355 (shipped) and take one week to custom-make for you. Just pass over your PayPal addy and I'll email an official PayPal invoice detailing all of what's in the kit (it's a complete kit btw, HID ballasts, xenon lamps, gifts and all!)

Some advert visual (draft) in Frenchglish (apologies to all native English people :p)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1402316924.jpg

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 04:40 AM

Turismo Series
 
And how can we forget the Classic CGT style projector! Re-branded the Turismo Series

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/021401545590.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011401545636.jpg

Pdwight 06-09-2014 08:11 AM

I want a pair of these in Red so bad....have to wait until I find new employment though.

BFeller 06-09-2014 10:04 AM

The no paint option does look nice on the Seal Grey and Arctic Silver

Nine8Six 06-09-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 404886)
The no paint option does look nice on the Seal Grey and Arctic Silver

Pricey sense of humor you got there ;) Good eye as well

Talk to Charles (user Particlewave) if you want it to happen like magic
(Edit: Charles offers all kind of retrofit services. Incl professionally installing those projectors, dash color leds, and other interior mods)

Coaster 06-09-2014 12:25 PM

Those are some sweet lights! Choices, choices.

particlewave 06-09-2014 12:47 PM

These are my babies :cool:

I have something different in mind for this set...stay tuned ;)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1402346828.jpg

BFeller 06-09-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 404921)
These are my babies :cool:

I have something different in mind for this set...stay tuned ;)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1402346828.jpg

Those are also the style I would like to install. Can't wait to see someone get the first set installed.

particlewave 06-09-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 404933)
Those are also the style I would like to install. Can't wait to see someone get the first set installed.

I hope to have them installed in 2-3 weeks and will post results ;)

I also plan to finally do a full write up with pictures and videos of the retrofit process for the die-hard DIYers like myself ;)

It's not rocket science, but there are many opportunities to damage things.

Pdwight 06-09-2014 09:07 PM

Diy
 
I would like to see a complete start to finish on this project. I plan on doing this when funds become available for my kit

rfuerst911sc 06-10-2014 02:03 PM

I haven't installed mine yet as I'm waiting for the new seals to be built but my lights are already old news :( I guess you can't stop progress :D

particlewave 06-10-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 405100)
I haven't installed mine yet as I'm waiting for the new seals to be built but my lights are already old news :( I guess you can't stop progress :D

The Turismo model is still very stunning and now yours may be more rare ;)

Pdwight 06-10-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 405100)
I haven't installed mine yet as I'm waiting for the new seals to be built but my lights are already old news :( I guess you can't stop progress :D

New seals to be built ??

jaykay 06-10-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 405100)
I haven't installed mine yet as I'm waiting for the new seals to be built but my lights are already old news :( I guess you can't stop progress :D

I would say that you have the best looking ones!

BFeller 06-13-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 404971)
I hope to have them installed in 2-3 weeks and will post results ;)

I also plan to finally do a full write up with pictures and videos of the retrofit process for the die-hard DIYers like myself ;)

It's not rocket science, but there are many opportunities to damage things.

I purchased a used set of headlights. I opened the backs of the lights because they were rattling and found that each light had an HID kit installed. The rattling came from ballasts which were lose inside cover that seals the access to the bulbs. It looked like the weight of the ballasts had knocked the light buckets off the pivot ball. Also the seal on one light was mush. Thursday was spent polishing the yellowed and gunk-ed up lenses. They now are looking like brand new.

Today I used Particlewave's video to open both headlights. I baked the first one for 15 minutes with no give on the silicone. It went back into the oven for another 10 minutes since it had cooled a bit. It came apart easy enough the after the second bake. The second one went in for 20 minutes and came apart quickly. It was then easy to pop both of the headlight bucket assemblies back onto their pivot balls. The internal lens covers came off with only one plastic tab having broken. Once the internal light covers were off there was dust or dirt around the reflectors. It looked like residue from a bulb burning off moisture.

Next step have to be ordering the new projector lights.

tightbox 06-14-2014 07:50 AM

Make sure to spray a permanent protective UV coating on the newly polished lenses, or they will be cloudy again in no time!

tonichristi 06-14-2014 01:05 PM

I've read this thread many times and really love the look of these latest projectors. I like the one above with the angled edge.

I think this modification is a little out of my league :(


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