6 point harness

[NewArt]

I posted this question in another thread but figured I should start my own:
I swap my race seat in and out for my track days. This year I want to upgrade to a 6 point harness and a HANS device. I want to keep my 3 point belts in place for street driving but also if I go on track with a passenger/instructor so that we will have equal safety restraints. I also have the BK extension. What is involved in the harness installation if I am retaining the oem belts?

[husker boxster]

I'm a bit confused by your keeping the 3pt system for instructors. PCA now requires the passenger seat match the driver's if you're going to have a passenger during a session. Are you saying you'll use the 6pt when driving by yourself and a 3pt if you have a passenger?

[Quadcammer]

really no interaction. Run the stock belt through the holes in the seat.

[NewArt]

Originally Posted by husker boxster

I'm a bit confused by your keeping the 3pt system for instructors. PCA now requires the passenger seat match the driver's. Are you saying you'll use the 6pt when driving by yourself and a 3pt if you have a passenger?

Yes. I don't really want to spring for another race seat and harness and possibly HANS device for the rare occasion when I have a passenger at the track. At the moment, when I ask an instructor for a ride along, I'm using the 3 point.

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[PaulE]

Originally Posted by NewArt

Yes. I don't really want to spring for another race seat and harness and possibly HANS device for the rare occasion when I have a passenger at the track. At the moment, when I ask an instructor for a ride along, I'm using the 3 point.

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As a student when I take a ride with an instructor in his car, we both have to use the 3 point belts even if he has harnesses on both sides, since I don't have a HANS device. I am seriously considering purchasing the Simpson hybrid HANS that works with 3 point belts and harnesses though for this year.

[NewArt]

Originally Posted by PaulE

As a student when I take a ride with an instructor in his car, we both have to use the 3 point belts even if he has harnesses on both sides, since I don't have a HANS device. I am seriously considering purchasing the Simpson hybrid HANS that works with 3 point belts and harnesses though for this year.

Yes, this is the new regulation, the requirement of a HANS device when using a full harness. It makes sense: if your body is being held rigid and upright by a harness, then the bowling ball on top needs to be restrained the same way! It’s all or nothing here. You’re better off with a standard oem 3 point than a 6 point harness with no HANS.

[steved0x]

Originally Posted by NewArt

What is involved in the harness installation if I am retaining the oem belts?

You can add harnesses without impacting 3 pt belt, I run both:

Harness shoulder belts wrapped to roll hoop bottoms (height works for me)
Sub belts wrapped to sub bar mounted under the seat to the rails.
Lap belts:
Outboard, snapped into an eyebolt that I used to replace the OEM seat belt outer bolt. It is a Motorsports eyebolt from schroth
Inboard lap belt, snapped into a Brey Krause adapter that lets you mount both the seat belt receptacle for 3 pt belt and harness lap belt to the mounting point for the 3 point belt (hopefully your seat mounts have this)

I can get part #'s on Monday from my computer. If you get a 2nd set of seat belt receptacles to mount on your race seat it eases the hassle. :-)

[NewArt]

Originally Posted by steved0x

You can add harnesses without impacting 3 pt belt, I run both:

Harness shoulder belts wrapped to roll hoop bottoms (height works for me)
Sub belts wrapped to sub bar mounted under the seat to the rails.
Lap belts:
Outboard, snapped into an eyebolt that I used to replace the OEM seat belt outer bolt. It is a Motorsports eyebolt from schroth
Inboard lap belt, snapped into a Brey Krause adapter that lets you mount both the seat belt receptacle for 3 pt belt and harness lap belt to the mounting point for the 3 point belt (hopefully your seat mounts have this)

I can get part #'s on Monday from my computer. If you get a 2nd set of seat belt receptacles to mount on your race seat it eases the hassle. :-)

Wish you lived around my block so that I could come and see this. I’m very visual so it’s not easy for me to get a good grasp on this. So you have 2 seat receptacles? If ever you find the part numbers or links to a diagram, I would be greatly appreciative!

[Van914]

Stevd0x
Exactly how I have mine installed.
No impact on 3 point belts for the street.

NewArt look at BK website for the parts.

[NewArt]

Originally Posted by Van914

Stevd0x
Exactly how I have mine installed.
No impact on 3 point belts for the street.

NewArt look at BK website for the parts.

Thanks, I’m sure I will get this figured out.