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jsceash 12-02-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seningen (Post 427051)
Just curious to see what your post track idle pressures are? I've seen mine drop below 15psi...

I snapped my temp sender post (ugh!!! and I am reordering a sender) so I don't have temp values yet).

Mike

To answer your question I see 20 on the head and 25 on the sump.

My biggest problem was the original pressure relief 100PSI. It popped occasionally when the engine is cold UGH!!! finally put in a 125 PSI relief. I had to pull the carpet from the trunk.

seningen 12-04-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jsceash (Post 427065)
To answer your question I see 20 on the head and 25 on the sump.

My biggest problem was the original pressure relief 100PSI. It popped occasionally when the engine is cold UGH!!! finally put in a 125 PSI relief. I had to pull the carpet from the trunk.

Thanks -- what AN hose sizes are you guys using for oil cooler/accusump/remote filter?

How about for tranny cooler?

Working on circling my Sears catalog....

thanks,

Mike

jsceash 12-04-2014 01:14 PM

Mine are size 10 braided stainless. that is 5/8" I believe. Locally available from a speed shop in the area and oddly our PepBoys. They have a good selection of fittings also

seningen 12-04-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jsceash (Post 427301)
Mine are size 10 braided stainless. that is 5/8" I believe. Locally available from a speed shop in the area and oddly our PepBoys. They have a good selection of fittings also

Merci Beaucoup.....

I was guessing -10.... Does PepBoys have the fittings as well?

All my speedshops are on the other side of town and only M-F 10-6 type hours :-(

So I usually have to order and hope I've got it right.

thanks,

Mike

thstone 12-10-2014 08:29 PM

Here is a video that I was asked to help out with recently for House Automotive in Pasadena, CA.

The video stars me and all three of my cars. :)

And yes, that is a real PIWIS. And they have the newer version to work with all of the new cars.

I hope to be expanding my relationship with House Automotive soon...

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/nlUIpVgaC9A?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

House Automotive - Tom Stone

RedTele58 12-11-2014 03:10 AM

Tom - that's very cool. It's neat to see how much you enjoy your cars and thanks for all the help and advise you give here on the board.

Thanks for all you do here and best of luck in the upcoming track season! :cheers:

Rick

jaykay 12-11-2014 05:25 AM

Hey what happened to the 944 T? Oh and well done video Tom!

steved0x 12-11-2014 06:19 AM

Cool video!

jsceash 12-11-2014 07:00 AM

Very nicely done!

BruceH 12-11-2014 07:28 AM

Great video Tom, thanks for sharing.

specboxCO 12-11-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seningen (Post 427296)
Thanks -- what AN hose sizes are you guys using for oil cooler/accusump/remote filter?

How about for tranny cooler?

Working on circling my Sears catalog....

thanks,

Mike

-10AN for Accusump/remote filter
-8AN for Tranny Cooler.

I use Aeroquip startlite hose rather than braided, as its easier to inspect, easier to work with and saves weight.

thstone 12-11-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 427924)
Hey what happened to the 944 T? Oh and well done video Tom!

The 944 Turbo is currently in the shop getting a new engine installed. Expect to pick it up end of next week!

seningen 12-11-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 427986)
The 944 Turbo is currently in the shop getting a new engine installed. Expect to pick it up end of next week!

That's too funny -- just fired up my 951 after an extensive rebuild at the shop last weekend...

However I'll be selling it -- eyeing a Spec Box to go with my 986S track car.

m

TeamOxford 12-11-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 427986)
The 944 Turbo is currently in the shop getting a new engine installed.

So that's what......four engines this year between the spec Boxster and the 944 Turbo?

Your VISA card must be pretty battered by now.

Just sayin'.............

TO

thstone 12-11-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 428013)
So that's what......four engines this year between the spec Boxster and the 944 Turbo?

Your VISA card must be pretty battered by now.

Just sayin'.............

TO

My household budget....

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psa5a7aac7.jpg

thstone 12-11-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seningen (Post 428002)
That's too funny -- just fired up my 951 after an extensive rebuild at the shop last weekend...

However I'll be selling it -- eyeing a Spec Box to go with my 986S track car.

m

Hah! That is pretty funny! Let me know what we're going to fix next...

Sorry to hear that the 951 might go but you'll love a Spec Boxster!

thstone 12-11-2014 09:04 PM

Next project is ready to start! Time to replace the transmission due to what seems to be a bad 3rd gear synchro in the original unit. I'll start this weekend.

Big thanks to member Hughes46 (Mike) for the replacement transmission. I promise to .... uh, beat the hell out of it. In a good way. :)

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psea30988b.jpg

BruceH 12-12-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 428013)
So that's what......four engines this year between the spec Boxster and the 944 Turbo?

Your VISA card must be pretty battered by now.

Just sayin'.............

TO

I was thinking the same thing. No wonder you did the video, hopefully you are getting a discount!

thstone 12-12-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 428075)
I was thinking the same thing. No wonder you did the video, hopefully you are getting a discount!

I haven't had to sell my furniture yet, but...

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psac3dd7f6.jpg

cmacduff 12-14-2014 09:25 AM

Sorry for the delay. Here is the build list for my oil cooler and a picture of it. The fan is actually underneath the cooler and pulls air through a hole in the trunk and exhausts to the street. There is also obviously a cut out in the bottom of the trunk to allow for this.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581496.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581532.jpg

cmacduff 12-14-2014 09:32 AM

Forgot 1st page...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581915.jpg

thstone 12-14-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428287)
Sorry for the delay. Here is the build list for my oil cooler and a picture of it. The fan is actually underneath the cooler and pulls air through a hole in the trunk and exhausts to the street. There is also obviously a cut out in the bottom of the trunk to allow for this.

Thanks Chris - any temp data that you'd like to share, before vs after? That is a serious cooler!

thstone 12-14-2014 02:30 PM

My younger son was home for the holidays from college so I talked him into helping me start to swap out the transmission. We got the lower braces, rear sway bar, and entire exhaust system removed in about 90 mins.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0a614e9.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...pseb2eb4ee.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psde0ce676.jpg

seningen 12-14-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428287)
Sorry for the delay. Here is the build list for my oil cooler and a picture of it. The fan is actually underneath the cooler and pulls air through a hole in the trunk and exhausts to the street. There is also obviously a cut out in the bottom of the trunk to allow for this.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581496.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581532.jpg

Thank you sir!

jaykay 12-14-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 428017)
Hah! That is pretty funny! Let me know what we're going to fix next...

Sorry to hear that the 951 might go but you'll love a Spec Boxster!

Ah em thinking of tracking a 951 this coming season. ...you guys are making nervous

seningen 12-14-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 428357)
Ah em thinking of tracking a 951 this coming season. ...you guys are making nervous

Do your homework. Lots of info out there.
Keep your oil cool, baffle your oil pan.

M

stephen wilson 12-15-2014 07:46 AM

macduff, Where is the cooler fresh air inlet ? The trunk is sealed pretty well, a fan can't move air without a flow path.

cmacduff 12-15-2014 08:06 AM

A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it. We did testing on the air flow by taping the strands of a mop from the back of the car over the inlet for the air cooler before making the scoop and used a go-pro to film the strands and see where the air flow was at race speeds. The cooler fan actually did suck the air in without the scoop so we tested some sessions with a "sample scoop" made out of an in box that you would see in an office on the wall. We used double sided tape and zip tied it through the mesh in the oil cooler in let. Temperatures were improved by 10 degrees with the scoop so even though air flowed without it was improved with the scoop. I'll post some pictures of that and also some screen shots of the temperature differences.

stephen wilson 12-15-2014 08:14 AM

Cool, glad to see you did some testing.

seningen 12-15-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428416)
A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it. We did testing on the air flow by taping the strands of a mop from the back of the car over the inlet for the air cooler before making the scoop and used a go-pro to film the strands and see where the air flow was at race speeds. The cooler fan actually did suck the air in without the scoop so we tested some sessions with a "sample scoop" made out of an in box that you would see in an office on the wall. We used double sided tape and zip tied it through the mesh in the oil cooler in let. Temperatures were improved by 10 degrees with the scoop so even though air flowed without it was improved with the scoop. I'll post some pictures of that and also some screen shots of the temperature differences.

I'm assuming when you say trunk -- in this case you mean trunk lid?
Definitely like to see the pix --

I was thinking something similar -- probably looks something like a 930 intercooler.

Mike

specboxCO 12-15-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428416)
A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it.

This mod is not going to be spec box legal, otherwise everyone would be cutting holes in their trunks for weight saving. I would talk to your local scrutes about how (if) you can get air in to the trunk and comply with the rules.

thstone 12-15-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by specboxCO (Post 428442)
This mod is not going to be spec box legal, otherwise everyone would be cutting holes in their trunks for weight saving. I would talk to your local scrutes about how (if) you can get air in to the trunk and comply with the rules.

I thought that I had mentioned in an earlier post that this mod isn't BSR/SPB legal. If not, sorry.

Chris' Boxster is an S-model anyway, so he runs in the GT class where mods like this are allowed.

With that being said, you have to admit that his approach to engine cooling is serious! :)

cmacduff 12-16-2014 07:48 PM

This is true. For those of you spec guys this mod won't be legal. My POC class is strictly power to weight. Anything else goes so if you have a big pocket book you can off set or compliment your driving. My car is in GT5 and the classes go 6-1 so I am on the bottom end and that is expensive enough.

That being said to answer Sennigen's question about exact temps when I was at AA speedway in Fontana in August ambient temps were 95 give or take. Without the cooler my oil temps were over 250 degrees by the end of a session. At Willow Springs in early September the temps were similar and my oil temps were 225 after a session. When we tested the in box file folder it lowered them another 10 degrees so 215 at the end of a session. I have attached a picture of the scoop and the hole in the trunk. The final scoop was just finished so I don't have data on it yet but my assumption is it will perform just as well as the in box file folder.



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418791687.jpg

jaykay 12-16-2014 09:47 PM

Awesome set up....love it! Jeez I really need to move out to SoCal! Do you have a transmission oil cooler set up under there as well?

stephen wilson 12-17-2014 03:08 AM

That's looks better than I thought it would, painted black it would blend in well. Still pretty much a track only mod, I don't think golf clubs will fit on top of that !

cmacduff 12-17-2014 07:27 AM

Jus for clarification in my last post the oil cooler was added after AA speedway and before the Willow Springs event. Sure you figured that out.....

Full picture of my car below. 2001 Boxster S

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418833614.jpg

cmacduff 12-17-2014 07:29 AM

No transmission cooler yet. I try not to run too much in the summer any more. It's just too hot here and heat is a killer!

com3dorm3 12-17-2014 09:06 AM

Car and mods look awesome!

The Radium King 12-17-2014 09:36 AM

are those pole positions - did you see the recent fia ruling on them?

seningen 12-17-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428569)
This is true. For those of you spec guys this mod won't be legal. My POC class is strictly power to weight. Anything else goes so if you have a big pocket book you can off set or compliment your driving. My car is in GT5 and the classes go 6-1 so I am on the bottom end and that is expensive enough.

That being said to answer Sennigen's question about exact temps when I was at AA speedway in Fontana in August ambient temps were 95 give or take. Without the cooler my oil temps were over 250 degrees by the end of a session. At Willow Springs in early September the temps were similar and my oil temps were 225 after a session. When we tested the in box file folder it lowered them another 10 degrees so 215 at the end of a session. I have attached a picture of the scoop and the hole in the trunk. The final scoop was just finished so I don't have data on it yet but my assumption is it will perform just as well as the in box file folder.



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418791687.jpg


Great data -- and this was what I was envisioning -- I would think that the scoop would do one of two things -- elevate the need for the fans (at any reasonable speed), and/or add extra drag.

Otherwise I like it.

Mike


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