You know whats nice ?

[C5150]

I smoked for 10 years. In college, my town went smokeless. Then got a job up in Seattle. Then Washington went smokeless.

I quit just before the change here in Wash. I was VERY pro-smoking in bars. Figured that smokers have lost most all their rights as it is (can pretty much only smoke in bars and bowling alleys), they should just let smoking stay along side drinking. But I'll have to say - I never realized as a smoker just how bad it smells in bars until I quit. My nose was numb to just how strong of a smell smoking creates.

Been off the sin-sticks for a year now, and have to agree. It's quite nice having non-smoking establishments.

I say the put smokers into a glass box like they do at the airports. As an old smoker - it wouldn't upset me at all - just as long as I didn't have to stand outside in the rain (20 feet min. from the entrance please!).

[super66]

being in a band I love when we hit a state that bans smoking....you at first don't realize it but then you start to notice something is different.....long live the ban, its starting in chicago too.....about time

[CJ_Boxster]

I smoke about once every 6 months, usually outside a bar, at nite, when im on edge. relaxes my legs and i feel like i just got a dose of feel good drugs or whatever they give women that are in labor

[ohioboxster]

Jim,
If your so disenchanted by this thread why did you post and continue to debate?
Just my .02

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by ohioboxster

Jim,
If your so disenchanted by this thread why did you post and continue to debate?
Just my .02

Ohio,

Somehow, you've missed the fact that there are two classes of 986forum members; those who need to stick to the topic at hand at all times and those who are free to post whatever the Hell they want. I've aluded to this mysterious secret society previously. I am at a loss as to how one gains admission, though we are clearly not invited.

I could cite countless examples of this two class society, but I will not. Suffice it to say that winning $18,000 in Vegas and being forced to sit through a Celine Dion concert (in the front row, no less) has absolutely nothing to do with Boxsters last time I checked.

Personally, I like the off-topic conversation. For me, it's like walking into Cheers and meeting up with the boys in the evening. My Boxster is cool, but the Earth doesn't revolve around it.

My .02

[ohioboxster]

Grizzly,
You made me go pee pee in my pants I laughed so hard. (Porsche panties by the way) seriously, I think the board gets kind of dry sometimes and this stuff gets people talking. I enjoy off topic stuff just as much.

[unklekraker]

One of the best thing that is happening in this forum is the off topic. I hang around here more than myspace..hehehehehe!

Grizz, you are right, our Boxsters are cool, but our world/conversation doesn't have to revolve around it. Well said, Grizz! 2 thumbs up

Oh, yah! glad to hear from you again, Ohio

Originally Posted by ohioboxster

Grizzly,
You made me go pee pee in my pants I laughed so hard. (Porsche panties by the way) seriously, I think the board gets kind of dry sometimes and this stuff gets people talking. I enjoy off topic stuff just as much.

Hey Ohio,

I did not think a big dude like you ever spoke the words "pee pee" !!

Are you doing to do the Dragon Run with us in May?

Ohio, I was a little confused by a post you made a couple weeks ago. In it, I think you told a story about being in a bad neighborhood when someone made a snide remark about Boxsters. Do you carry a side arm? Help me out here. Thanks.

[Perfectlap]

I'm sure smokers don't visit doctors too often because if they did they'd stop smoking. I remember Dr. Oz showing preserved lungs from dead smokers..frightening.
But public health care is tapped. "Cost shifting" where a patient without any coverage (out of work smokers) has all of his smoking realted treament bills shifted to that working patient who ends up paying $2,500 for a three hour emergency room visit for a mere bad-aid. This isn't accounted for in these studies because no one at these hospitals and treatment centers admti to borrowing from "Peter to pay for Paul" when they bill the carriers when medicare runs out. The "double books" of the hopital industry...

Now as far as lost tax revenues, consider that every single day a plane load of workers die. That (according to CDC) results in a loss of $92 Billion in lost productivity every year. The average smoker can count on going to grave 14 years earlier than he should have.
Tell a smoker you know to stop smoking today.

Why do cigarette smokers throw their butts out in the sidewalks and streets, or when driving they throw them out the window? This irritates me as much, if not more, than the actual second-hand smoke.

It shocks me that young people today start smoking, with everything we know about the health risks associated with cigarettes. But, I guess they feel invincible.

[Perfectlap]

when ever I see the guy in front of me throw his cigarette out of his passenger window and I think an explosion is going to follow shortly...

my favorite is when I see a smoker pull into a gas station and he keeps on smoking...

[NickCats]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Why do cigarette smokers throw their butts out in the sidewalks and streets, or when driving they throw them out the window? This irritates me as much, if not more, than the actual second-hand smoke.

It shocks me that young people today start smoking, with everything we know about the health risks associated with cigarettes. But, I guess they feel invincible.

bmus,

Unfortunately, I am a smoker. I have promised the missus I will quit when we start a family. I try to be a courteous smoker, and put my butts in an ashtray or garbage can when available. I no longer smoke in my cars, but I used to throw the butts out the window because they would stink up the car. While in New York, all the bars, restaurants, and even the entire hotel was non-smoking. Inconvenient, yes, but I don't complain about anti-smoking laws because it is my choice to smoke but not fair ( IMHO ) to disturb the rights of others. It is an expensive, dirty habit and it kills me to spend 6 hrs a week in the gym and then smoke a pack a day. But, it is also a very hard habit to break. Society is becoming very unfriendly to smokers, but truth is by not smoking in my car, in a restaurant, or a bar, I smoke less, which I know is better for my health. My wife does not smoke, and when she becomes pregnant I do not want to smoke around her or the baby so I think that will be a great motivation to quit.

Just my $0.02

Nick

Originally Posted by NickCats

bmus,

Unfortunately, I am a smoker. I have promised the missus I will quit when we start a family. I try to be a courteous smoker, and put my butts in an ashtray or garbage can when available. I no longer smoke in my cars, but I used to throw the butts out the window because they would stink up the car. While in New York, all the bars, restaurants, and even the entire hotel was non-smoking. Inconvenient, yes, but I don't complain about anti-smoking laws because it is my choice to smoke but not fair ( IMHO ) to disturb the rights of others. It is an expensive, dirty habit and it kills me to spend 6 hrs a week in the gym and then smoke a pack a day. But, it is also a very hard habit to break. Society is becoming very unfriendly to smokers, but truth is by not smoking in my car, in a restaurant, or a bar, I smoke less, which I know is better for my health. My wife does not smoke, and when she becomes pregnant I do not want to smoke around her or the baby so I think that will be a great motivation to quit.

Just my $0.02

Nick

Nick, I have a ton of respect for people who can quit a habit (drugs, alcohol, ciggs, whatever). I can only imagine how very-very difficult it is to stop smoking.

One of the best gifts you could ever give your future children and "C" would be becoming a non-smoker and teaching your kids that smoking is something they should never do.

Try to quit well before the baby. Being a new parent is stress enough! Being a new parent and trying to become a non-smoker could prove to be just too overwhelming at on-time.

Take care.