11-02-2018, 02:49 PM
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Just a thought...
If you had metal pieces circulating in the engine, then stay away from any open seal ball bearing solution. IMHO, that's just asking for failure if a metal piece gets between the races and the balls
Clean the engine completely and put in an IMS Solution
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11-02-2018, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thom4782
Just a thought...
If you had metal pieces circulating in the engine, then stay away from any open seal ball bearing solution. IMHO, that's just asking for failure if a metal piece gets between the races and the balls
Clean the engine completely and put in an IMS Solution
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What metal pieces?
Unless you want to drop thou$ands on overpriced LNE products, go with a replacement double row or roller bearing.
If it were me, I'd go with the EPS roller. Since it's already apart, I would not keep the old bearing in.
There is no proof that the LN solution is "permanent" or incapable of failure, and there are plenty reports of their other bearings failing, so it's really just a matter of which you feel the most comfortable with. There is no correct answer.
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Last edited by particlewave; 11-02-2018 at 03:44 PM.
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11-02-2018, 06:35 PM
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First, I wrote 'if'' purposely b/c only the poster knows if there were metal pieces circulating in the engine
Second, the IMS Solution doesn't cost thousands.
Third, the failure mode of any bearing other than a plain bearing is that a failure will severely damage the inside of the engine. The Solution is the safest bet either from a cost or hours of labor.
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11-02-2018, 08:41 PM
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Agreed
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Originally Posted by particlewave
What metal pieces?
Unless you want to drop thou$ands on overpriced LNE products, go with a replacement double row or roller bearing.
If it were me, I'd go with the EPS roller. Since it's already apart, I would not keep the old bearing in.
There is no proof that the LN solution is "permanent" or incapable of failure, and there are plenty reports of their other bearings failing, so it's really just a matter of which you feel the most comfortable with. There is no correct answer.
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Nothing is permanent, especially if it moves
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11-10-2018, 04:41 PM
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Words are cheap There's theory (opinions). There's reality (statistically verifiable failure rates from actual installations). They are not the same!
So ask the various IMS suppliers how many of their units have been installed. Ask what their failure rates are? If they won't or can't provide you with statistically reliable numbers, they are just talking theory.
Theory is great. Just know when you put an IMS in your car, then theory turns into an experiment, which may or may not work out. And if the experiment fails, it will cost you thousands to remedy.
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11-12-2018, 07:03 AM
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I liked the youtube video, I saw another one from him where he cuts IMS bearings apart and looks into them, that`s a good one, too. I`ve seen many reports on the web about replacing the original IMSB that was otherwise in perfect condition, especially the dual row ones. The original ones apparently last for 100k miles at least, and afterward when they get replaced to a new one, those cars are still running within the next 100k miles probably (or at least cars over 200k miles are rare), so there`s no way to really tell if any kind of IMSB upgrade is better that the original 2 row bearing, which cots like $50. And I agree, creating hysteria and selling "the solution" for $800 for cars worth 5k is just not cool. IMHO.
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