The Nine8Six (the car) is dead, can't start

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Originally Posted by 78F350

Sent a pm regarding code name Qmulus.
The data that is specific to your car is on a single ic. From what I understand it is not reprogrammable in the immobilizer (not eeprom). Rather, the DME can be programmed to it. What Q does is de-solder and transfer that little piece of magic from one immobilizer unit to another.
Sure that the great-and-powerful Nine8Six can do it selfie. Just opening a box I only see 2 ic's of interest and I already know it isn't the bigger of the two.

Not the case...the EEPROM is read/write. This is personal experience, not speculation. Certain people that repair these immobilizers at a rate of hundred$ for 10 minutes of work don't want the average Joe to know how simple it is.

As I stated, I just walked someone through the process via text message. It is very simple. His car is now running great and all immobilizer functions are back to normal.
{part# removed}...exact # varies by model.

[Nine8Six]

'97 for your reference/record below Charles. And can you please source/fabricate us a sealed enclosure that the Immob fits into? (please). You'll save so many great Boxsters and 911... these things are nearly shot man, or soon will be if not taken care right away. Take my word... not exactly cheap :/





^ Look at that corrosion build up... 20 years (or possibly 22 years, not sure loll)

[RobertKing]

Lot's of interesting suggestions, all missed the most basic thing. You said you haven't driven the car in 2 months. If the alarm was on, your battery is too low to start the vehicle. Happened with my 2001 just this week and after only 3 weeks of not being driven. Jump start it, drive around for 30 or 40 minutes and you're likely good to go. If the battery was disconnected, that does not mean the battery is good. 12.3 or so volts sounds right but, that's not under a load. Test the battery before going for expensive and likely unnecessary repairs.

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Originally Posted by RobertKing

Lot's of interesting suggestions, all missed the most basic thing. You said you haven't driven the car in 2 months. If the alarm was on, your battery is too low to start the vehicle. Happened with my 2001 just this week and after only 3 weeks of not being driven. Jump start it, drive around for 30 or 40 minutes and you're likely good to go.

You missed it, Robert. Read post #1.

[RobertKing]

I read the first post, the immobilizer is under the drivers seat so, dismissed the water under the passenger seat as an issue. Basic trouble shooting is to go from simple to complex, not the other way round, hence my suggestion. A battery can be new and have sat on a shelf for many months before sale. ALWAYS, test the battery first. Next, test for current draw. Then, test ECU/Immobilizer for issues. If you go the opposite direction, you needlessly spend time and money when it may be as simple and cheap, as a battery cable. My own Boxster S (2001 3.2L) had a very low battery after 3 weeks of not being driven. Same symptoms. Hooked up a charger for a few hours, turned the key and she started right up.

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Originally Posted by RobertKing

I read the first post, the immobilizer is under the drivers seat so, dismissed the water under the passenger seat as an issue. Basic trouble shooting is to go from simple to complex, not the other way round, hence my suggestion. A battery can be new and have sat on a shelf for many months before sale. ALWAYS, test the battery first. Next, test for current draw. Then, test ECU/Immobilizer for issues. If you go the opposite direction, you needlessly spend time and money when it may be as simple and cheap, as a battery cable. My own Boxster S (2001 3.2L) had a very low battery after 3 weeks of not being driven. Same symptoms. Hooked up a charger for a few hours, turned the key and she started right up.

Originally Posted by RobertKing

2,050 horsepower? On what planet? Brand new battery is meaningless. Brand new, can fail just as often and as quick as 3 years old or more. You've no idea how long that battery sat on a storeroom shelf before it was sold to you. I do diagnostics on computers every single day, it's my living. Batteries and such issues are no difference. Simple to complex is the proper order. Eliminate the simple before moving onto something complex. While it could be, the immobilizer, it's far more likely something much higher on the chain is the actual culprit. As I said in a previous post, my own, 2001 Boxster S did the same thing after 3 weeks of not being driven. A few hours charge and she was back up and running.

Yikes.

Yeah...I'm fairly sure it's the immobilizer.
You really ought to read every post on a thread before commenting. His battery is fine.

[Nine8Six]

Robert, my battery is the Best-in-the-World! Well, you know what I mean by that. Made in Tacalloo (new country), and marked up 1000%. Fits well though



What you said totally make sense and I should have charged up the battery before to rule this out. I actually did today just to give it a better life than it had. And you are so right man, often the silliest things we forget are often the cause of bigger problem(s). Always best to keep a down to earth approach when doing car diagnostic. Although pretty hard to achieve when you know zero about Porsche cars (my first Porsche man).

All I know is when electronics starts flashing and resisting in porsche cars, it either the audi $10 switch or the windshield washer fluid gone bad lollll As hard as I tried to believe it wasn’t the immobilizer, trust me I did tried :/

Keep up the great advice man

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by RobertKing

Jump start it, drive around for 30 or 40 minutes and you're likely good to go. If the battery was disconnected, that does not mean the battery is good. 12.3 or so volts sounds right but, that's not under a load. Test the battery before going for expensive and likely unnecessary repairs.

You have no idea how hard it is to jump start a 2,050 horsepower Boxster, Rob Batt is brand new from 2016, from Porsche (in special, of course). But will take your advice and drive it as soon as it starts.

Thanks for helping me out bud

[RobertKing]

2,050 horsepower? On what planet? Brand new battery is meaningless. Brand new, can fail just as often and as quick as 3 years old or more. You've no idea how long that battery sat on a storeroom shelf before it was sold to you. I do diagnostics on computers every single day, it's my living. Batteries and such issues are no difference. Simple to complex is the proper order. Eliminate the simple before moving onto something complex. While it could be, the immobilizer, it's far more likely something much higher on the chain is the actual culprit. As I said in a previous post, my own, 2001 Boxster S did the same thing after 3 weeks of not being driven. A few hours charge and she was back up and running.

[Disaster]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

'97 for your reference/record below Charles. And can you please source/fabricate us a sealed enclosure that the Immob fits into? (please). You'll save so many great Boxsters and 911... these things are nearly shot man, or soon will be if not taken care right away. Take my word... not exactly cheap

Like this?

Porsche Boxster & 996 Immobilizer Waterproof Case Enclosure

[Paul]

Interesting. A reset EEPROM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCnpQvEWL_U