2.7L vs. 2.5L? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Perfectlap · 06-23-2006, 12:19 PM

"Again, a lot of generality. Who says the market is growing? There's lots of competition out there - M Roadster, Z4, S2000, Sky, 350Z Convt., MX-5, Audi TT, etc. On the contrary, I believe this market is so oversaturated that it isn't expanding at all and prices are going to get softer, not firmer"

HA! those cars are not Porsches!

seriously Most people buying the Boxster aren't familiar with the proximity in performance offered by (SOME) of the cars you listed. Most people looking at Boxsters (not the standar enthusiast type) are buying on brand name which puts Porsche in its unique position in terms of used value.
On paper the Boxster should not be as expensive as it is either new or used.
Yet people still pony up $30K for a used car that has only 250HP, while some offer that performance NEW. Why? because Porsche exists in its won little world. One that the dudes in Germany take full advantage of.

p.s.
I think you inferred that I was inferring that the 2.5 was inadequate in power. Its obviously not because I drove a 1.8 4 cylinder Miata that merged and overtook cars just muy bueno. 2.5 is more than enough for every day needs.

Brucelee · 06-23-2006, 02:44 PM

You guys have this out of your system?

Seriously, who is willingly going to buy a Porshe with 201HP and a reputation for grenading at times?

:dance:

MNBoxster · 06-23-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

You guys have this out of your system?

Seriously, who is willingly going to buy a Porsche with 201HP and a reputation for grenading at times?

:dance:

Hi,

The former is true of the pre-'00 cars, but the latter remains true to this day, and from everything I read, not to any lesser degree either...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Grizzly · 06-23-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

Seriously, who is willingly going to buy a Porsche with 201HP and a reputation for grenading at times?

:dance:

Me... and I can even spell Porsche correctly.

Brucelee · 06-23-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly

Me... and I can even spell Porsche correctly.

Hey, don't get ****************ty with the moderator. I have to read every bloody post here, so forgive the typo!

OK now?

:troll:

Grizzly · 06-23-2006, 04:32 PM

Oh great! The FNG pissed off the moderator!

I hope I didn't seriously anger you...just bustin' balls. I'm a product of my North Philadelphia upbringing. I can't help myself.

Don't worry, grammar really isn't one of my strong points. You'll certainly have ample opportunity to exact your revenge upon my sorry ass!

Brucelee · 06-23-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly

Oh great! The FNG pissed off the moderator!

I hope I didn't seriously anger you...just bustin' balls. I'm a product of my North Philadelphia upbringing. I can't help myself.

Don't worry, grammar really isn't one of my strong points. You'll certainly have ample opportunity to exact your revenge upon my sorry ass!

No need for revenge. All is good! By the way, what is a FNG?????

I went to school in Philly, twice. I went undergrad to Philly Textile and then on to Wharton/Penn for graduate school.

I miss Philly. Haven't been back for a while.

Be well!

bigislandboxster · 06-23-2006, 06:55 PM

I love my '98....It's not the fastest car around, but I love it for the driving experience. The engine was replaced in 2002 before I bought it, and since I bought it 14 months ago, I have had no engine problems. The cam cover seals were replaced, yes, but the car was not losing oil, and I knew my warranty would cover it. The car handles great with the M030 suspension, and everywhere I go I get looks and compliments. Even from people driving cars which are more expensive and have more HP. Today some guy in an Audi TT wanted to show me his "stuff" so he pulls out fast past me and gets in front of me in the turning lane to exit off the highway...He was a good 100 feet in front of me as he entered the exit ....Then the road started to twist abruptly, and he had to slow down dramatically.....3/4 of the way thru the turn I was on him already and I had to slow down because he couldn't take the curve very quickly.....My car was hardly straining tho

Did I say I love this car?

Grizzly · 06-23-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

No need for revenge. All is good! By the way, what is a FNG?????

I went to school in Philly, twice. I went undergrad to Philly Textile and then on to Wharton/Penn for graduate school.

I miss Philly. Haven't been back for a while.

Be well!

F.N.G.: Official U.S Government acronym... F**king New Guy.

Textile, great school. Wharton...now I AM impressed.

You know, Philly gets in your blood and you can never truly get it out of your system. I live in a great town, with a house looking out over the Chesapeake Bay, but if the opportunity presented itself I would move back to the City of Brotherly Love first thing in the morning.

My family is still up there, so I make the trip often. If you decide to visit sometime, let me know. We can grab a cheesesteak wit and run the Art Museum steps, though not necessarily in that order.

MNBoxster · 06-23-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

No need for revenge. All is good! By the way, what is a FNG?????

I went to school in Philly, twice. I went undergrad to Philly Textile and then on to Wharton/Penn for graduate school.

I miss Philly. Haven't been back for a while.

Be well!

Hi,

I'm originally from Philly too. My family lived in Drexel Hill, near Villanova. I moved away while very young, but spent most of my summers there and the obligatory month at the Shooorrr. I miss it too...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

hdpt73 · 06-23-2006, 07:09 PM

I agree with MNBoxster about the standard, the older the car, the more problems you will see. If I had to do it all over again, I'd buy the standard. If I wanted more overtaking power I'd get an STI. I just wanted a fun car to haul around in on weekends with the top down. But I noticed that you said you would AutoX your box so the S may be for you (IMO, a good driver in a standard could whip a sorry driver in an S, depends on the driver at AutoX). If you decide to get a box, almost every problem that has occurred in the car has a fix for it on the internet. and ppl on these forums are very knowledgable and can point to in the right direction for a DIY. Boxsters are dependable and will last but ALL boxsters have problems, it's just a matter of how much of a DIYer you are to fix it. The standard will give you just as many smiles as an S would.

porsche always makes something alittle better to charge more, just depends on how much more you want to spend, all are good. besides who buys a porsche to resale it? I bought mine to drive it til it dies.

specivic · 06-23-2006, 02:48 PM

wow! I am noticing a difference between Honda S2000 owners and Boxster owners...The latter owners are far more knowledgable about the cars they drive!
I also didnt anticipate that this would become a heated debate! Right now, I just want something which I can enjoy as my daily driver. I live in a prarie canadian city so I do not need gross amounts of power but some would be nice as this car would also be used for autox and possibly some hot laps.