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				Coolant and yes I have searched and read
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			Still I did not see any definite conclusions to the OEM Porsche OAT coolant. Is there a substitute OAT that equals the original (and upgraded) Porsche coolant ? 
I know Porsche does not manufacture coolant so what are you guys using ??
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-14-2017, 08:41 PM
			
			
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			02-15-2017, 12:54 AM
			
			
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			Porsche coolant 
 
And changing/flushing it every 36 months ('97, original water pump and coolant tank)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-15-2017, 03:02 AM
			
			
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			I use the coolant Porsche uses OEM, but don't buy it from Porsche.   
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			02-15-2017, 04:50 AM
			
			
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			VW/Audi G12 (pink) or G12+ (purple).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-15-2017, 05:20 AM
			
			
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			Pentofrost. Done.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-15-2017, 08:36 AM
			
			
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			Ravenol or Vaico G13 works as well (that's pretty much all I run in mine... flush once every 3 years) 
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			02-15-2017, 10:12 AM
			
			
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			Man, i debated this thing with myself years ago...I felt like a complete dumbaz considering coolant at $30 a gallon at 90K on the clock. 
At the end of the day, the best alternative I found was a Zerex extended life was about $18/gallon.  
 
At the end of the day, I figured that this was not worth it (to me) to second guess the decision to spend an extra $36  on the P-brand.  I figured I may never have to do this again (if I sold the car at some point).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2017, 11:25 AM
			
			
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			Hm, OK - does everybody know what OAT means and why Porsche used it? 
 
So if you are using a different non Porsche, non OAT cooling fluid, make shure you change it frequently at min. every 5 years. 
 
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			02-15-2017, 11:35 AM
			
			
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			Organic acid technology 
 
wikipedia is a good place to start.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2017, 05:20 PM
			
			
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			This sums it up better than I have seen it in one place before
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2017, 08:13 PM
			
			
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			OK I'll bite: 
@ Markus 
1) why did Porsche use O.A.T.? 
2) where did you get the equivalent-to-Porsche-brand fluid? Is there a compatible and comparable alternative to purchasing fluid from the dealer? 
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			02-15-2017, 09:04 PM
			
			
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			Pentosin's PENTOFROST.  It's label states it's for VW's, Audi's, and Porsche's.....and all aluminum engines.....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-15-2017, 09:25 PM
			
			
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			The current coolant Porsche is selling for our cars is  not OAT.
 
As proof, note the word "silicates" appearing on the ingredient list of Porsche's most updated/current coolant...  
The part numbers of this particular jug are: 000 043 301 49 on the back, and "G-40-91-EF" on the front:
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-16-2017, 04:22 AM
			
			
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			Looks like this could be the type (Porsche approval): 
G40® | Glysantin®
So it's a silicated-OAT, then (also considered a HOAT).
 
Per Glysantin, G40 is used from 2010 onward, G30 from 1996-2010, and G48 up through 1995.
 http://www.glysantin.de/fileadmin/Files/Downloads/Publications/BASF_Glysantin_Zulassungen_EN.pdf
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-16-2017, 05:32 AM
			
			
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			02-16-2017, 08:46 AM
			
			
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			Lots of OAT brands to choose from. See Post 7 above.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-16-2017, 10:13 AM
			
			
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			I'll get it from BASF. See post #16 from Deserion. 
 
It's G30 (OAT) for the 986. Why? Because it's an alloy engine. And because it has a very long change interval (very good long term stability) compared to other fluids. 
 
In general it seems you can also use G40 (Si-OAT). But you have to flush the system completely. 
 
Don't mix silicat free coolant fluid like G30 with silicat containing coolant fluid like G40. 
 
I don't know how the parts in the 986 cooling system react on the silicat. Don't know if Si-OAT is 100% compatible with the 986 coolant system on a long term. 
 
In general silicat reacts with alloy and generates a protective layer. But this layer doesn't last very long. So they developed the OAT coolant fluid. The long term alloy corrosion protection is much better. 
 
This is why i would recommend to use BASF G30 for a 986 car. 
 
The bottle jakeru shows is the newer G40 stuff. 
 
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			02-16-2017, 03:56 PM
			
			
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			Just use Porsche coolant and you don't have to worry about all this BS
		 
		
		
 
		
		
		
		
			
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