02-14-2017, 07:37 PM
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Coolant and yes I have searched and read
Still I did not see any definite conclusions to the OEM Porsche OAT coolant. Is there a substitute OAT that equals the original (and upgraded) Porsche coolant ?
I know Porsche does not manufacture coolant so what are you guys using ??
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02-14-2017, 07:41 PM
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On the slippery slope
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Porsche coolant
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02-14-2017, 11:54 PM
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Porsche coolant
And changing/flushing it every 36 months ('97, original water pump and coolant tank)
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02-15-2017, 02:02 AM
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I use the coolant Porsche uses OEM, but don't buy it from Porsche.
Regards, Markus
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02-15-2017, 03:50 AM
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VW/Audi G12 (pink) or G12+ (purple).
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02-15-2017, 04:20 AM
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I am my own mechanic....
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Pentofrost. Done.
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02-15-2017, 07:36 AM
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Ravenol or Vaico G13 works as well (that's pretty much all I run in mine... flush once every 3 years)
VW Antifreeze - VW G13 G12 Antifreeze - Pink Purple VW Antifreeze
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02-15-2017, 09:12 AM
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Man, i debated this thing with myself years ago...I felt like a complete dumbaz considering coolant at $30 a gallon at 90K on the clock.
At the end of the day, the best alternative I found was a Zerex extended life was about $18/gallon.
At the end of the day, I figured that this was not worth it (to me) to second guess the decision to spend an extra $36 on the P-brand. I figured I may never have to do this again (if I sold the car at some point).
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02-15-2017, 10:25 AM
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Hm, OK - does everybody know what OAT means and why Porsche used it?
So if you are using a different non Porsche, non OAT cooling fluid, make shure you change it frequently at min. every 5 years.
Regards, Markus
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02-15-2017, 10:35 AM
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Organic acid technology
wikipedia is a good place to start.
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02-15-2017, 04:20 PM
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Thanks Folks
This sums it up better than I have seen it in one place before
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02-15-2017, 07:13 PM
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OK I'll bite:
@ Markus
1) why did Porsche use O.A.T.?
2) where did you get the equivalent-to-Porsche-brand fluid? Is there a compatible and comparable alternative to purchasing fluid from the dealer?
Thx
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02-15-2017, 08:04 PM
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So Blessed!
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Pentosin's PENTOFROST. It's label states it's for VW's, Audi's, and Porsche's.....and all aluminum engines.....
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02-15-2017, 08:25 PM
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The current coolant Porsche is selling for our cars is not OAT.
As proof, note the word "silicates" appearing on the ingredient list of Porsche's most updated/current coolant...
The part numbers of this particular jug are: 000 043 301 49 on the back, and "G-40-91-EF" on the front:
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Last edited by jakeru; 02-15-2017 at 08:57 PM.
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02-16-2017, 03:22 AM
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Looks like this could be the type (Porsche approval):
G40® | Glysantin®
So it's a silicated-OAT, then (also considered a HOAT).
Per Glysantin, G40 is used from 2010 onward, G30 from 1996-2010, and G48 up through 1995.
http://www.glysantin.de/fileadmin/Files/Downloads/Publications/BASF_Glysantin_Zulassungen_EN.pdf
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Last edited by Deserion; 02-16-2017 at 03:36 AM.
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02-16-2017, 04:32 AM
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02-16-2017, 07:46 AM
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Lots of OAT brands to choose from. See Post 7 above.
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02-16-2017, 09:13 AM
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I'll get it from BASF. See post #16 from Deserion.
It's G30 (OAT) for the 986. Why? Because it's an alloy engine. And because it has a very long change interval (very good long term stability) compared to other fluids.
In general it seems you can also use G40 (Si-OAT). But you have to flush the system completely.
Don't mix silicat free coolant fluid like G30 with silicat containing coolant fluid like G40.
I don't know how the parts in the 986 cooling system react on the silicat. Don't know if Si-OAT is 100% compatible with the 986 coolant system on a long term.
In general silicat reacts with alloy and generates a protective layer. But this layer doesn't last very long. So they developed the OAT coolant fluid. The long term alloy corrosion protection is much better.
This is why i would recommend to use BASF G30 for a 986 car.
The bottle jakeru shows is the newer G40 stuff.
Regards, Markus
Last edited by Smallblock454; 02-16-2017 at 09:47 AM.
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02-16-2017, 02:56 PM
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Just use Porsche coolant and you don't have to worry about all this BS
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