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Old 01-11-2016, 10:35 AM   #1
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Advice 0n a 03 S

Afternoon Guys.

I would like you opinion and advice on what to do.

Here is the link to what I think is a decent car/deal...

2003 Porsche Boxster S d'occasion À Vendre | Montréal, QC

I talked to them and here is what they are saying.

1. Original US car.
2. In 2005 at approx. 50,000 kilometers it had front end damage. Approx $30,000. and they wrote it off. Salvage title
2. Fixed and came in to CDN in 2006
3. Has had an other 50,000 kilometers put on it since the accident.
4. No service records at this time
5. They will let me do a PPI at the Porsche dealer.
6. They say it drives and brakes true and has had a recent 4 wheel alignment.
7. Interior is a 8-9
8. Exterior a 7 plus
9. Tires better that 50%
10. Top is good


The $100 questions is:

1. Should I consider it? and if so what precautions/advice can you offer?
2. Run Like Hell in the opposite direction?

Much appreciated guys.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:38 AM   #2
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For that kind of money you can get a non-salvage title car in Houston.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:53 AM   #3
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For that kind of money you can get a non-salvage title car in Houston.
The problem I have is the exchange rate.

$15,000 US will cost me $21,000 US.
Plus there are some conversions that need to be done to the car to meet our laws. (Daytime running lights and the speedometer I think)


It adds up in a hurry....
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:28 AM   #4
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Funny, I just finished fixing up one just like that. Same colour, also had front end damage and a salvage title. Its hard to say without seeing pictures of the damage. On one hand, there isn't really that much up front to be worried about mechanically and if its been driven 50k since the damage you might assume that any problems it might have had would have presented themselves by now. But then again, it doesn't have any service records to substantiate this. On the other hand, 30k is quite a bit of damage. Mine had 20k, 6k of which was for new wiring harness because of a tiny piece of plastic being broken off the headlight plug that didn't even affect it. The other concern that I would have is that the headlights are not correct for the year. Makes you wonder what other concessions might have been made during the rebuild.
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Funny, I just finished fixing up one just like that. Same colour, also had front end damage and a salvage title. Its hard to say without seeing pictures of the damage. On one hand, there isn't really that much up front to be worried about mechanically and if its been driven 50k since the damage you might assume that any problems it might have had would have presented themselves by now. But then again, it doesn't have any service records to substantiate this. On the other hand, 30k is quite a bit of damage. Mine had 20k, 6k of which was for new wiring harness because of a tiny piece of plastic being broken off the headlight plug that didn't even affect it. The other concern that I would have is that the headlights are not correct for the year. Makes you wonder what other concessions might have been made during the rebuild.
Your right about the head lights....
I never noticed until you mentioned it! They are suppose to be clear.

Being a newbe how else can you tell if they cheated elsewhere?
I guess when you look at it you would know from experience and by knowing what it is suppose to look like.

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The price seems below market (at least for the US) which is consistent with a salvage title.

The question is how much risk you are willing to take on? I suggest doing as much investigation as possible so you know what you're getting into.

A Porsche dealership PPI is a good step in the right direction. I would also find out the detailed history of the car - how many owners since it was repaired and why/how did it end up at a used car dealership for sale now? There might be logical answers for these questions or they might raise some red flags.

Then take the PPI and the history report and negotiate hard to get the price lower - explain that this car is nothing but risk to drive a better bargain.
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Far be it from me to tell you how to spend your money.
I just think if you look around Kijiji and AutoTrader here in Ontario, and be patient, you can buy a lot of Boxster for $21,000.00 CDN.

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The only real differences between the front end components of a 00-02 and 03-04 S are the bumper and the headlights, at least in my experience of sourcing parts for my own rebuild. Someone can correct me if I am wrong on this. That bumper is correct for the year though.

Ideally you would want access to the original damage estimate from the insurance company. It will have an itemized list of every component that was damaged and needed to be replaced. Then you would want to cross reference this with the list of parts that were used for the rebuild. The rebuilder has to present the list of all major components that they had to purchase to fix the car in order to get the title changed from salvage to rebuilt, at least here in canada. The problem is that the car was fixed in the states over 10 years ago so you'll probably have a hard time getting access to this information. Personally, this is the kind of stuff I would want to know to feel 100% comfortable buying the car. Definitely get a PPI if you are serious about it though.
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Someone mentioned the headlights (probably due to the accident) but I also notice the steering wheel is a 4-spoke wheel? My 02 was 3 spoke.....would that have been replaced too in an accident (airbags?)? Or did they go back to the 4 spoke at some point?

I'd keep looking, or expect a big discount off that price. Seems a bit high. Have you driven it yet?
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Someone mentioned the headlights (probably due to the accident) but I also notice the steering wheel is a 4-spoke wheel? My 02 was 3 spoke.....would that have been replaced too in an accident (airbags?)? Or did they go back to the 4 spoke at some point?

I'd keep looking, or expect a big discount off that price. Seems a bit high. Have you driven it yet?
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2003 boxster S with 98000km






Also in MTL, if you like the colour combo I'll get you a price
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Also in MTL, if you like the colour combo I'll get you a price
I would be interested in a price and what the options are.

Appreciated. Thanks.
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Yep, as mentioned, that car has been repaired with non2003 parts.
For that kind of money, find one without a branded title.
Saving a few bucks now isn't really saving money if you can't sell it down the road. Ask anyone who has ever tried to sell or trade a branded vehicle, myself included.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:53 PM   #14
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For what it is what do you think a good deal would be???
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