08-10-2015, 07:50 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
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I'll be the first to buy tickets out of the country when the election comes down to trump and socialist sanders.
I'm not pleased that the first election I get to take part in will either be some mix between two candidates with names that have already been in office, trumps hair, or a socialist that would literally take every Obama or Carter mistake and double down on it.
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Very smart Jake.   🏻
The people with the most money in this country, have a back up plan and we are leaving.
Just wait until they cancel the welfare, ebt, public assistance, cancel Social Security and lower disability money.
All this poor people will go crazy,
The U.S. Will be horrible.
Sucks for people that cannot relocate or are poor.
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08-10-2015, 07:54 AM
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Very smart Jake.   🏻
The people with the most money in this country, have a back up plan and we are leaving.
Just wait until they cancel the welfare, ebt, public assistance, cancel Social Security and lower disability money.
All this poor people will go crazy,
The U.S. Will be horrible.
Sucks for people that cannot relocate or are poor.
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Just want to clarify a cut in my association with anything you just said.
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08-10-2015, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
Just want to clarify a cut in my association with anything you just said.
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Haha
Meaning??
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08-10-2015, 08:03 AM
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Aren't you the dumbass that asked me if I lift? All random
You should hit the books and less the weights
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Yes I'm that dumb ass. And that question was a joke...which went right over your head.
Probably my mistake since in these parts calling everyone bro is not as hilarious as it is San Diego.
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Because I can get millions for faxing in medical bills and records. A demand packet, and expect a commercial check to be from 1 mil to 10mil, depending on case.
I know how to submit info to BI Claim adjusters that make millions, unlike you maggot.
So come back to me once you know what an attorney is and how to make money.
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Yeah what would I know?? I only spent a number of years working as an investigator for the country's wealthiest trial lawyer. In terms you could understand that means he owned (not leased) three private jets and 3 yachts (BIG ones) one of which was in D.C. just to schmooze Congress (featured on ABC news).
As for your highlighted statements above, again, I really hope you're not using your real name because typing such things will close so many doors for you, both on the client and side and the lawyer side, that I almost feel bad for you because you should be a lot more hip to the incredible folly of making such pronouncements. If you want to become a successful lawyer some day, you should learn that you should never #1 admit to illegal acts (certainly not before you've been admitted) -- doesn't matter if those acts were committed here or abroad, it's an admissions process subject to bar discretion and not a prosecution, you need to understand the difference before you continue making such statements.
#2 never close a door unless you have something to gain. By saying "I don't need to work for anyone else, I'm not poor" you are demonstrating that you don't know the silliness of closing doors needlessly.
You had nothing to gain by admitting to committing crimes, yet went ahead and made such statement on a public forum oblivious to all the ways that it could affect your admission to a state or federal bar. If I were you, I would delete this account on this forum, including all the posts and rethink your methods in public discourse.
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08-10-2015, 08:12 AM
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Yes I'm that dumb ass. And that question was a joke...which went right over your head.
Probably my mistake since in these parts calling everyone bro is not as hilarious as it is San Diego.
Yeah what would I know?? I only spent a number of years working as an investigator for the country's wealthiest trial lawyer. In terms you could understand that means he owned (not leased) three private jets and 3 yachts (BIG ones) one of which was in D.C. just to schmooze Congress (featured on ABC news).
As for your highlighted statements above, again, I really hope you're not using your real name because typing such things will close so many doors for you, both on the client and side and the lawyer side, that I almost feel bad for you because you should be a lot more hip to the incredible folly of making such pronouncements. If you want to become a successful lawyer some day, you should learn that you should never #1 admit to illegal acts before you've been admitted -- doesn't matter if those acts were committed here or abroad, it's an admissions process subject to bar discretion and not a prosecution, you need to understand the difference before you continue making such statements.
#2 never close a door unless you have something to gain. By saying "I don't need to work for anyone else" you are demonstrating that you don't know what that means.
You had nothing to gain by admitting to committing crimes, yet went ahead and made such statement on a public forum oblivious to all the ways that it could affect your admission to a state or federal bar. If I were you, I would delete this account on this forum, including all the posts and rethink your methods in public discourse.
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In other words, your boss is pimp and ur his beazzy ,I get it.
But I am more badass than your boss because I resolve cases without litigation, straight from the claims dept I get my check.
So the cases that we get have a police report that states who's at fault. I only take cases where the police report clearly states that the commercial driver was at fault, if it's not like I just stated, I do not want your case. Why? Because I'll have to hire a legal team like your boss did to resolve the case through lit.
I'm faster, more efficient and I swear my parents have made over 100m just as I stated from the proceeds above
You and me, no hard feelings bro. Let's just talk Porsche stuff
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08-10-2015, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.JonathanLanda
In other words, your boss is pimp and ur his beazzy ,I get it.
But I am more badass than your boss because I resolve cases without litigation, straight from the claims dept I get my check.
So the cases that we get have a police report that states who's at fault. I only take cases where the police report clearly states that the commercial driver was at fault, if it's not like I just stated, I do not want your case. Why? Because I'll have to hire a legal team like your boss did to resolve the case through lit.
I'm faster, more efficient and I swear my parents have made over 100m just as I stated from the proceeds above
You and me, no hard feelings bro. Let's just talk Porsche stuff
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I'll take my lifestyle and take on life in general over your need to announce your wealth any day. I'm glad my dad taught me how to work and respect other people.
We could always discuss the TS topic here and you can brag about worth in your own thread? Thanks.
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08-10-2015, 09:21 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
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Originally Posted by Timco
I'll take my lifestyle and take on life in general over your need to announce your wealth any day. I'm glad my dad taught me how to work and respect other people.
We could always discuss the TS topic here and you can brag about worth in your own thread? Thanks.
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I started my thread to talk about the mods.
people started attacking me.
Bro I'm here for the 986, people should avoid attacking me for the sake of people like you that don't have a need to hear my rant
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08-10-2015, 09:48 AM
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And if I'm Stewart's lawyers, I say:
If I juke one way I risk juking the very way the guy was reacting trying to avoid. Better to stay where I am and hope he successfully avoids.
A race track is not where I'm expecting a pedestrian and so my brain isn't processing the image even if I'm seeing it. I'm looking for debris and the normal rules of street driving don't apply.
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08-10-2015, 10:03 AM
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And if I'm Stewart's lawyers, I say:
If I juke one way I risk juking the very way the guy was reacting trying to avoid. Better to stay where I am and hope he successfully avoids.
A race track is not where I'm expecting a pedestrian and so my brain isn't processing the image even if I'm seeing it. I'm looking for debris and the normal rules of street driving don't apply.
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Race drivers are instructed to hit whatever is on the track head on to avoid further accident by swerving and loosing Control at high speed.
Since he obeyed race direction counts this as a racing incident with negligence by ward
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08-10-2015, 10:34 AM
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I wonder where he got the idea to do such a hot headed thing?
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08-10-2015, 10:48 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
In car racing, there's more anger when us humans make mistakes. Since they have being preparing for the race, for your race to be over in a sec because of someone else, that's very aggravating but you should wait until out of the pits and file complaint with RD.
This video is of two racers top tier motorcycle racers. Valentino Rossi and Marco Simoncelli.
They are from the same town
They grew up together
Raced together,
Marco fell off the bike at full lean and Valentino semi decapitated him with the bike.
Marcos parents said "I know that is the best way my son could of died, doing something he loved"
Since the ward fam knew their son messed up and did not think, their insurance is not covering expenses. So that is why they are trying to milk their sons death.
Law suit lost.
http://youtu.be/BStK2zC1QEk
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08-10-2015, 11:00 AM
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I wonder where he got the idea to do such a hot headed thing?

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From people with fully maturated frontal lobes for $800 Alex?
this clip you posted below would make a great demonstrative exhibit for an expert witness in neurology demonstrating the difference between a multi-millionaire's tantrum on a race track vs. a not-yet-legal-to-even-drink 20 year old's tantrum.
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08-10-2015, 11:17 AM
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How important is the toxicology report really? I think we can all agree racing a car stoned is not a great idea, but are Wards actions in question here or are Stewart's? IF he could have missed him and wanted to scare him or clip him on purpose I don't think the fact Ward was high matters. if he hit him on purpose Ward could have been blind drunk and Stewart would still be somewhat responsible for what happened.
Just my two cents
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08-10-2015, 11:38 AM
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From the link in the first post there was this info at the bottom I just saw:
"New York law does not allow the Ward family to collect damages for their own pain and suffering but does allow parents to recover loss of expected future support and care that their child could have provided."
How much could that be? It doesn't sound like it would be a whole lot compared with some sort of extravagant damages award. Maybe I read it wrong.
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08-10-2015, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by steved0x
From the link in the first post there was this info at the bottom I just saw:
"New York law does not allow the Ward family to collect damages for their own pain and suffering but does allow parents to recover loss of expected future support and care that their child could have provided."
How much could that be? It doesn't sound like it would be a whole lot compared with some sort of extravagant damages award. Maybe I read it wrong.
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This "model" came up in the GM ignition debacle. The families of drivers who were killed as direct consequence of GM's outrageous negligence received less money if the driver was middle-aged than the family of young driver with twice the remaining life expectancy.
I guess extravagant would be in the eyes of the jury member. If they feel negatively about the law barring families from punishing someone who contributed to their child's death, they could do an end run and award damages based on Ward's trajectory into the professional driving ranks. Being that he was driving at the level of a seasoned professional during a dirt track race, a persuasive argument could be presented (to someone unhappy with the NY law) that this may have been the next Joey Logano. Certainly if the family could show races in which Logano was beating NASCAR champions at age 20, on dirt tracks. Or alternatively, that Ward was accomplishing something that even Logano hadn't. Juries don't have to prove their decisions, it's up to the appellate process to deem it excessive or not. Not a good gamble for Stewart.
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08-10-2015, 01:04 PM
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It's very simple-- don't drink and drive.
Don't drive stoned.
Don't walk, run or turn your
Back to traffic on a hot
Track. Or grid or pit areas
For that matter
It not hard.
You know what you're doing
Going in.
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08-10-2015, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
It's very simple-- don't drink and drive.
Don't drive stoned.
Do walk, run or turn your
Back to traffic on a hot
Track. Or grid or pit areas
For that matter
It not hard.
You know what you're doing
Going in.
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08-10-2015, 01:18 PM
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My attorney at the time gave me some FREE
Advice which I took. It was
Don't write or say anything that
You don't want people to read
Or repeat about you.
Because it will come back to
Haunt you.
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08-10-2015, 02:20 PM
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In other words, your boss is pimp and ur his beazzy ,I get it.
But I am more badass than your boss because I resolve cases without litigation, straight from the claims dept I get my check.
So the cases that we get have a police report that states who's at fault. I only take cases where the police report clearly states that the commercial driver was at fault, if it's not like I just stated, I do not want your case. Why? Because I'll have to hire a legal team like your boss did to resolve the case through lit.
I'm faster, more efficient and I swear my parents have made over 100m just as I stated from the proceeds above
You and me, no hard feelings bro. Let's just talk Porsche stuff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.JonathanLanda
I started my thread to talk about the mods.
people started attacking me.
Bro I'm here for the 986, people should avoid attacking me for the sake of people like you that don't have a need to hear my rant
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No one started to attack you until you started being a narcissistic pompous entitled silver spooned rude know-it-all ass.
You started off attacking one of the most respected members on this forum, and then hijacking the thread and being a boasting braggart
You are now a lawyer? You have passed the bar and resolve cases?
If you are so smart, you would have figured out by now that NO NONE here cares about your stupid posts or ANYTHING that goes on in your life
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08-10-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by plus3db
No one started to attack you until you started being a narcissistic pompous entitled silver spooned rude know-it-all ass
You are now a lawyer? You have passed the bar and resolve cases?
If you are so smart, you would have figured out by now that NO NONE here cares about your stupid posts or ANYTHING that goes on in your life
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Bro, stick to the topic.
You are still poor btw
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