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GTA_G20 10-24-2018 10:21 AM

It was 5x 00's behind the one 100k seller has edited his ad

Boxstard 10-24-2018 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burg Boxster (Post 581532)
That's the PERFECT wheel and radio surround were I ordering a Bertram 50.

Never been a fan of Porsche's Arbor Day Edition but hey couldn't all those credits be applied against the diesel-gate fines - LOL

I appreciate classic wood steering wheels and shift knobs from vintage Porsches that the original Boxster 986 design concept came from. I’d prefer retro theme over modernizing updates with projector/ LED lights, big fat wheels, double DIN touch screen, carbon fiber bits, etc.... just IMHO. When I was searching for a 986 2 years ago that eventually replaced my 914, it has to be a silver over red leather car with old 550 soul.

But hey, whatever floats your boat!

Probably not much credit for cutting down mahogany trees for the steering wheels, but that fake wood plastic panels may count?

flouese 10-25-2018 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgyqc (Post 581503)
It's $10K... did the seller correct the price or does someone need glasses? :D

It was corrected from the original posting

husker boxster 10-26-2018 06:30 PM

Caveat emptor
 
Confused / uneducated Porsche owner or snake oil salesman?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=481013316&zip=68164 &referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D68164%26startYe ar%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3Dderivedp riceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26e ndYear%3D2011%26modelCodeList%3DBOXSTE%26makeCodeL ist%3DPOR%26searchRadius%3D0%26trimCodeList%3DBOXS TE%257CS&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&firstRecord= 0&endYear=2011&modelCodeList=BOXSTE&makeCodeList=P OR&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=POR&modelCode1=BOXSTE& clickType=listing

He says:
1. 3 times that it is an S. However, the 5th digit in the VIN is an A (base).
2. 3 times it's stated that it's a manual trans. Yet pics 4 & 5 clearly show PDK.
3. Twice it's stated that it is a V6. At least he got the size right - 2.9, which also proves it's a base.

His asking price is OK for an S, but way too high for a base.

78F350 11-07-2018 10:56 AM

I've seen plenty of base models being sold as an 'S', but this one takes it a little too far:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/288181705366229/

2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1541620477.jpg

911monty 11-07-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 582570)
I've seen plenty of base models being sold as an 'S', but this one takes it a little too far:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/288181705366229/

2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1541620477.jpg

Great way to get that KBB value meter up though!

L1ttleBastard 11-07-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by husker boxster (Post 581737)
Confused / uneducated Porsche owner or snake oil salesman?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=481013316&zip=68164 &referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D68164%26startYe ar%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3Dderivedp riceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26e ndYear%3D2011%26modelCodeList%3DBOXSTE%26makeCodeL ist%3DPOR%26searchRadius%3D0%26trimCodeList%3DBOXS TE%257CS&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&firstRecord= 0&endYear=2011&modelCodeList=BOXSTE&makeCodeList=P OR&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=POR&modelCode1=BOXSTE& clickType=listing

He says:
1. 3 times that it is an S. However, the 5th digit in the VIN is an A (base).
2. 3 times it's stated that it's a manual trans. Yet pics 4 & 5 clearly show PDK.
3. Twice it's stated that it is a V6. At least he got the size right - 2.9, which also proves it's a base.

His asking price is OK for an S, but way too high for a base.

It's a V6. VERY RARE! :D

husker boxster 11-08-2018 04:46 AM

It's one thing to say a car has full leather or bi-xenon when it doesn't, but trying to knowingly foist a base off as an S is another. The guy in my example has painted his calipers red and changed the exhaust tip to a dual, so he seems to be knowingly trying to get S money out of his base. I sent him an email thru the ad and suggested he should correct his verbiage, but obviously nothing has happened. Maybe we should start a 986forum campaign to bomb him with emails. :D

paulofto 11-08-2018 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 582570)
I've seen plenty of base models being sold as an 'S', but this one takes it a little too far:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/288181705366229/

[B]2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe

When I sell my '03 S I'm going to claim that it is a Carrera GT. What the heck, at least they are both mid engine. If you are going to outright lie in an ad you might as well go all in.

78F350 11-08-2018 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 582645)
When I sell my '03 S I'm going to claim that it is a Carrera GT. What the heck, at least they are both mid engine. If you are going to outright lie in an ad you might as well go all in.

Makes me want to troll them and ask if they'll trade even for an 'Audi R8' like this:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1541700782.jpg

BFeller 11-14-2018 01:14 PM

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/beautiful-2004-porsche-911/6742557574.html

I was interested in this low mileage car. If I could source a engine for a reasonable price it might be an interesting project. The price is high considering Boxster rollers go for 5,000.

husker boxster 11-14-2018 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 583144)
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/beautiful-2004-porsche-911/6742557574.html

I was interested in this low mileage car. If I could source a engine for a reasonable price it might be an interesting project. The price is high considering Boxster rollers go for 5,000.

Why is it a salvage title? A blown motor due to IMS would not cause it to be totaled by the insurer. Think there's more than being let on. The front bumper looks a bit wonky.

BFeller 11-15-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by husker boxster (Post 583168)
Why is it a salvage title? A blown motor due to IMS would not cause it to be totaled by the insurer. Think there's more than being let on. The front bumper looks a bit wonky.

I exchanged a few emails with the seller. It does have a clean title. He thought since the car is not drivable, it would be called salvage.

Oldcarguy 11-28-2018 05:19 AM

Still time to bid :)

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paulofto 11-28-2018 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcarguy (Post 584079)
Still time to bid :)

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Interested to see what this sells for. $22.5K USD seems pretty aggressive.

Oldcarguy 11-28-2018 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 584081)
Interested to see what this sells for. $22.5K USD seems pretty aggressive.

Agreed. Maybe on BAT if it’s low miles with all records in great condition. Across the last year I’ve seen SE prices anywhere from 12,500 to 29,000 asking. The listings go away so it seems they are selling. Not planning on parting with mine in any case. Mine’s in great shape but it’s a driver. In fact I’m gearing up for some HPDE in the upcoming season.

Ottomotion 11-28-2018 12:20 PM

They are out there....on CL....for better $$, lower miles, etc...

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster/6750877838.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster-special/6755666497.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/2004-boxster-spyder-50th/6757870731.html

How bout this one in Florida? I dont think the dealer even knows what they have:

https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster-down/6751327127.html

Burg Boxster 11-28-2018 01:05 PM

Oooooh... better hurry as the LA and Orlando cars have that elusive Millennial & Gen Z option code CPD (Clutch Pedal Delete)

;)

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Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584115)


Oldcarguy 11-28-2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584115)
They are out there....on CL....for better $$, lower miles, etc...

. . . How bout this one in Florida? I dont think the dealer even knows what they have:

https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster-down/6751327127.html

Yeah, not the first time I’ve seen a 550SE listed by a clueless dealer. Having said that, the interior looks rough and it’s a tip so who knows.

Oldcarguy 12-07-2018 12:02 PM

Least expensive running (I assume) 550 SE I’ve run across.

169,000+ miles anyone?

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dghii 12-07-2018 04:26 PM

A lot of miles yet a pretty consistent ~20K year for the last 12 years.

BoxMann 12-07-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 583144)
I was interested in this low mileage car. If I could source a engine for a reasonable price it might be an interesting project. The price is high considering Boxster rollers go for 5,000.

Help me out, what's a "roller"? A car with a blown engine?

BoxMann 12-07-2018 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584115)

How bout this one in Florida? I dont think the dealer even knows what they have:

https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster-down/6751327127.html

What's the telltale sign that's a Spyder? Lower front grille? (I'm a Newbie so bear with me)

sugarwood 12-08-2018 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584115)
How bout this one in Florida? I dont think the dealer even knows what they have:

https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-porsche-boxster-down/6751327127.html

What do they have ?
I see a Boxster, just like the ad claims.

BruceH 12-08-2018 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxMann (Post 584899)
Help me out, what's a "roller"? A car with a blown engine?

Yes :cheers:

Oldcarguy 12-08-2018 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 584910)
What do they have ?
I see a Boxster, just like the ad claims.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxMann (Post 584900)
What's the telltale sign that's a Spyder? Lower front grille? (I'm a Newbie so bear with me)

The 2004 Boxster 550 Special Edition in summary:

- 264 hp, 7 more than the Boxster S (largely due to ECU reprogramming)
- 987 airbox
- shorter-throw manual shifter
- unique stainless steel exhaust tip
- 10-mm-lower suspension (M030) with five-mm-wider track (via factory spacers)
- Xenon headlights
- full leather interior (in Cocoa or Dark Gray with matching convertible top)
- sports seats
- black face instruments with chrome trim rings
- aluminum finish brake calipers
- GT Metallic Silver exterior with matching interior trim
- 18” Carrera Light wheels painted in two tone Seal Gray and Arctic Silver
- SE 'red' tailights
- only 500 of the 1,953 total worldwide production were exported to the US for sale

Asking prices are running around 12,000 to 29,000 USD right now. There are currently three or four for sale on Craiglist.

The SE has dedicated Porsche issued product literature, posters, etc. and it was the last year for 986 production. Typical move for Porsche to issue an SE edition at the end of a model run.

NewArt 12-08-2018 06:11 AM

BUT, this one’s a tip!

Oldcarguy 12-08-2018 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewArt (Post 584917)
BUT, this one’s a tip!

I've seen a few SE tips recently. I can't find any production or import numbers for the tip equipped SEs. They missed out on the 'shorter throw shifter' for sure :D

BoxMann 12-08-2018 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcarguy (Post 584914)
The 2004 Boxster 550 Special Edition in summary:

- 264 hp, 7 more than the Boxster S (largely due to ECU reprogramming)
- 987 airbox
- shorter-throw manual shifter
- unique stainless steel exhaust tip
- 10-mm-lower suspension (M030) with five-mm-wider track (via factory spacers)
- Xenon headlights
- full leather interior (in Cocoa or Dark Gray with matching convertible top)
- sports seats
- black face instruments with chrome trim rings
- aluminum finish brake calipers
- GT Metallic Silver exterior with matching interior trim
- 18” Carrera Light wheels painted in two tone Seal Gray and Arctic Silver
- only 500 of the 1,953 total worldwide production were exported to the US for sale

I understand all that. What I was asking is how Ottomotion knew from the picture of that car in Florida that it was a 550 Spyder. What gave it away? What was the telltale sign?

BoxMann 12-08-2018 06:27 AM

BTW, I find this thread about some of the whacky ads on CL very entertaining !

Oldcarguy 12-08-2018 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxMann (Post 584919)
I understand all that. What I was asking is how Ottomotion knew from the picture of that car in Florida that it was a 550 Spyder. What gave it away? What was the telltale sign?

Taking a quick glance at the Florida ad:

- the two tone Seal Gray/Arctic Silver Carrera Light wheels
- the aluminum finished brake calipers
- the GT Metallic Silver interior trim pieces
- the black gauge faces with chrome trim rings
- the plaque on the center console batwing
- the unique exhaust tip

Not applicable for this Florida ad (because it is one of the dark gray ones), a Cocoa interior color with matching convertible top

BoxMann 12-08-2018 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcarguy (Post 584924)
Taking a quick glance at the Florida ad:

- the two tone Seal Gray/Arctic Silver Carrera Light wheels
- the aluminum finished brake calipers
- the GT Metallic Silver interior trim pieces
- the black gauge faces with chrome trim rings
- the plaque on the center console batwing
- the unique exhaust tip

OK, thank you. I guess it's an open and shut case.

Oldcarguy 12-08-2018 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxMann (Post 584925)
OK, thank you. I guess it's an open and shut case.

You're welcome. BTW, that particular car is missing the rear air dam (spoiler) cover.

dghii 12-11-2018 02:14 PM

https://www.hondaofbaycounty.com/details/?vin=WP0CA2A83AS710381&type=used&desc=2010-Porsche-Boxster-Convertible-Convertible

If you want to get away from IMS worries!

No affiliation but I've seen and driven this car. Been bumped into a couple of times but actually looks pretty good. Weird steering wheel and passenger seat has some marks. Runs good.

BoxMann 12-11-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dghii (Post 585117)
https://www.hondaofbaycounty.com/details/?vin=WP0CA2A83AS710381&type=used&desc=2010-Porsche-Boxster-Convertible-Convertible

If you want to get away from IMS worries!

No affiliation but I've seen and driven this car. Been bumped into a couple of times but actually looks pretty good. Weird steering wheel and passenger seat has some marks. Runs good.


$15k sounds a little too cheap for a 2010 . . . even with 92k miles.

Probably should be somewhere at least in the low $20's, if I had to guess.

husker boxster 12-11-2018 03:19 PM

Agree w/ BoxMann that at 1st glance would think price would be right at $20K. I've seen 2010 base Boxsters w/ 70K mi in the $21-22K range. However...

No Carfax so we don't know how many fender benders / bumps & bruises.
At that mileage, you should assume the clutch is toast.
It probably needs a set of tires, brake pads, and rotors.

Combined, these items would drop the price to around $15K, so probably not too underpriced. When was the last time a dealer unknowingly underpriced a car? Would assume the worst on this one.

BoxMann 12-11-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husker boxster (Post 585120)
Agree w/ BoxMann that at 1st glance would think price would be right at $20K. I've seen 2010 base Boxsters w/ 70K mi in the $21-22K range. However...

No Carfax so we don't know how many fender benders / bumps & bruises.
At that mileage, you should assume the clutch is toast.
It probably needs a set of tires, brake pads, and rotors.

Combined, these items would drop the price to around $15K, so probably not too underpriced. When was the last time a dealer unknowingly underpriced a car? Would assume the worst on this one.

Well, that's kinda what I meant when I said it was "too cheap" -- i.e., that it had a bad history and/or needed a bunch of work.

You're not just buying a Boxster here, you're buying a project, and maybe a headache too.

Bald Eagle 12-11-2018 04:05 PM

There is a 29k-Mile 2008 Porsche Boxster RS60 Spyder on auction on Bringatrailer.com that looks very well maintained in case anyone's looking.

Larry (The Bald Eagle)

BoxMann 12-11-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle (Post 585122)
There is a 29k-Mile 2008 Porsche Boxster RS60 Spyder on auction on Bringatrailer.com that looks very well maintained in case anyone's looking.

Larry (The Bald Eagle)

That's a sweet looking car. What do you think it would go for? I'll bet the Reserve is low $20's.

dghii 12-11-2018 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxMann (Post 585121)
Well, that's kinda what I meant when I said it was "too cheap" -- i.e., that it had a bad history and/or needed a bunch of work.

You're not just buying a Boxster here, you're buying a project, and maybe a headache too.

It's not that bad.
This car was listed for $20K back in the summer. came down to $18K and then we had a visit from Hurricane Michael. The dealership is in good shape but most folks are preoccupied with recovery issues Yesterday was two months since the storm hit and It'll be years before the east end Panama City is back to normal. Panama City Beach was spared and is fine for anyone making vacation plans!

I digress.

Yes, the car not a garage queen and it has a weird past. I almost bought this car a few years ago in the winter for $16.8K . In the last three or four years, it's been for sale 4 times on three different lots. I does raise red flags, but if you looked at the car and drove it, you'd wonder why. IIRC, tires were fine, pads would need attention but rotors were ok. Who knows about the clutch but it felt fine.

Not trying to talk anyone into the car but for anyone with DYI skills, I doubt you'd have much $ risk.


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